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Post by neverland on Jun 18, 2018 6:01:17 GMT -5
Or find someone to make one for you. But expect to pay accordingly. How bad do you want one??? I am a collector, not a modeller: I try to grab all that I can afford  . For brass locomotives, that means one in four/five years. Had Alco PA1 popped-up instead of the Krauss-Maffei, I would have bought it undoubtedly. Anyway, friendly people at AZL made it clear that if there is enough interest in a project, they will consider it. So, I am just lobbying in favor of a new run of Alco PA1, which would go well with the soon coming lightweight cars  Oh I certainly understand! Enough sweaky wheels and maybe the grease will follow. In my case, a dream for an FL9 New Haven seems impossible in my lifetime at least. Gerd is my best best and his work is brilliant. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2018 9:32:36 GMT -5
So, let's evaluate an approximative price (without obligation) : how much for a ready-to-run PA1 (Hallmark shell, painted be Gerd, say in ... NH colours, and motorized chassis ! ) cost ?
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Post by neverland on Jun 18, 2018 10:19:40 GMT -5
So, let's evaluate an approximative price (without obligation) : how much for a ready-to-run PA1 (Hallmark shell, painted be Gerd, say in ... NH colours, and motorized chassis ! ) cost ? Ask him! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2018 10:51:14 GMT -5
Another problem : despite of the fact that Gerd is initially a German name, I suppose that "Your" Gerd is living in the States ; and Murphy says that we "poor" Europeans should not forget the customs (about 30 % ? )
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Post by neverland on Jun 18, 2018 11:12:59 GMT -5
Another problem : despite of the fact that Gerd is initially a German name, I suppose that "Your" Gerd is living in the States ; and Murphy says that we "poor" Europeans should not forget the customs (about 30 % ? ) Australia |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2018 11:25:07 GMT -5
The problem is the same : outside of EU ! So I think I give up ; maybe it interests perhaps Ciccino ...
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Post by markm on Jun 18, 2018 12:55:49 GMT -5
The problem is the same : outside of EU ! So I think I give up ; maybe it interests perhaps Ciccino ... Then you might want to try Frank in de Nederland: www.frank-zscale.com/ or www.facebook.com/Zspoor/Some thoughts about the Hallmark ornaments. It's important to remember that they are representations of Lionel O scale rolling stock from the 1950s and 1960s. Certain liberties were taken for them to run on the Lionel fixed radius (21" as I recall) track and turnouts. So don't expect prototype accuracy. One could probably do better with a 3D scan of an N scale PA-1, shrink the data and print a Z scale shell. There is no readily available Z scale 6 axle chassis that fits a PA, but the ES44 is the closest with the prototype wheelbase being about 4 feet (5mm scale) longer than the PA. Personally I'd be interested in an SP A-B-A set of -1s in Daylight colors and an A-B set in the bloody nose. Mark |
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Post by ciccino on Jun 18, 2018 15:29:13 GMT -5
The problem is the same : outside of EU ! So I think I give up ; maybe it interests perhaps Ciccino ... I live in the European Union as well! Let's hope the revamp of Swiss Z line brings some some fine stuff at a good price (i.e., without custom levies) to European AZL fans  |
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Post by cwrr on Jun 18, 2018 15:49:57 GMT -5
One thing with Gerd is the trust factor-he is trustworthy. Takes time to ship it, he does a great job, and he delivers what he promises.
Believe me, trust is the most important factor here. Being screwed out of a few painted shells "promised", and the money lost, it's worth it to someone you can count on to deliver.
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Post by smr on Jun 18, 2018 16:44:36 GMT -5
The problem is the same : outside of EU ! So I think I give up ; maybe it interests perhaps Ciccino ... ..... Personally I'd be interested in an SP A-B-A set of -1s in Daylight colors and an A-B set in the bloody nose. Mark I second that! Best, Sven |
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Post by nick on Jun 18, 2018 22:51:42 GMT -5
Thanks for the link and discussion on the Hallmark PA1 ornament. I had heard about these various places, but was never sure which ones were close to correct for Z scale.
So I ordered on of these - price sure is reasonable. I was pleased to see the detail look pretty good, but was surprised by the weight - guess I was assuming plastic injection molding.
So now that I have it, anyone have tips on how to turn an ornament into a shell? I could just grab the Dremel and start cutting - its cheap enough if I botch the job I am not out much - but if anyone has done this, and insights would be appreciated.
Thanks, Nick
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Post by smr on Jun 19, 2018 2:15:37 GMT -5
Thanks for the link and discussion on the Hallmark PA1 ornament. I had heard about these various places, but was never sure which ones were close to correct for Z scale.
So I ordered on of these - price sure is reasonable. I was pleased to see the detail look pretty good, but was surprised by the weight - guess I was assuming plastic injection molding.
So now that I have it, anyone have tips on how to turn an ornament into a shell? I could just grab the Dremel and start cutting - its cheap enough if I botch the job I am not out much - but if anyone has done this, and insights would be appreciated.
Thanks, Nick
 I think this is a very good request, Nick, May be Gerd is willing to tell you more how he does it. Gerd? I got all my Alco Pa-1 and -2 from him. He can even do the Alco Pa-Bs on the basis of two Hallmarks.......  Best, Sven |
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Post by ciccino on Jun 19, 2018 3:23:36 GMT -5
Wow, Gerd  that's an amazing work! |
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Post by gerd on Jun 19, 2018 20:09:11 GMT -5
O.K.,just some hints, not giving everything away, because that has backfired several times in the past... I basically use a MTL GP chassis and add the Hallmark side frames. In the past I added dummy wheels at the front and rear to make it C-C, but the wheels caused trouble with de-railing, therefore I leave them empty, function first.
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Post by gerd on Jun 19, 2018 20:11:38 GMT -5
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. For brass locomotives, that means one in four/five years. Had Alco PA1 popped-up instead of the Krauss-Maffei, I would have bought it undoubtedly. Anyway, friendly people at AZL made it clear that if there is enough interest in a project, they will consider it. So, I am just lobbying in favor of a new run of Alco PA1, which would go well with the soon coming lightweight cars 
that's an amazing work!
