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Post by smr on Jul 5, 2017 0:08:57 GMT -5
That's the other part of the equation....not everyone in Z-scale buys $2000 brass locos and has a arsenal of FR freight cars...I have a conservative budget to contend with as I'm sure others do too. Just saw that Sascha has a AZL#1812-2 BNSF Heritage II C44-9W locomotive on sale. You may want to contact him before (!) he puts it on EBAY. His e-mail address is: bavariarts@yahoo.de Good luck! Best, Sven |
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Post by Rob Albritton on Jul 5, 2017 7:10:13 GMT -5
Hans or Rob...a few posts back, someone asked how many BNSF SD70ACe's were made; can you divulge that information? I wish I could, but the information is competitive as there are other manufactures who would love to know how we do our business. We DO release information on brass runs, as they are specialized products where there is not direct competition and production sizes are important to collectors. We have also produced private runs of products in the past (and still offer that service) where we do not even acknowledge that we have produced the product without the customer's permission. |
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Post by skibbe on Jul 5, 2017 8:19:40 GMT -5
Add me to the cast of characters looking for modern GE horsepower in BNSF Heritage II. And Heritage I. And ATSF patched. I'm stuck in 2007-2008. So I can't really use the ES44AC's (delivered in 2009) but still had to buy three as stand ins. You can see how many holes I have in the roster, look at all these trains without motive power! I need about a dozen Dash-9's in the perfect world. Gevos are close for now.  I tend not to complain about equipment availability. Some guys need to model a specific thing in a specific scale. I tend to treat it as a puzzle and see what can be done. Aside from motive power, its almost easier to model the BNSF Scenic Sub/Columbia River Sub in Z scale than N scale, so I'm putting together this puzzle: There's 10 shelves there, which show progress for the needed BNSF trains in this era. 1) Seattle section of Amtrak's Empire Builder (Complete plus private cars) 2) Z train (Needs modern GE power, ideally Dash 9's and DC Gevos in HII) 3) Rack train (Complete, this power is actually correct for a train I caught in 2007) 4) Earthworm (I need to figure out how to build about 30 Trinity 5161 covered hoppers! And some modern GE power) 5) International Stacks (I could use a Maxi-I, and fewer 48' gundersons for the era, but I'm using what's available, SD40-2's for this one, waiting for HI and Swoosh from MTL) 6) Empty Coal (This ran eastbound over the territory, power and train are good but could use AZL coalporters in BNSF circle-cross with brown ends. This is the only SD70ACe I needed, for distributed power) 7) Merchandise 1 (Needs some Dash 9's. Would be a good train for a grundgy ATSF patched units) 8) Merchandise 2 (SD70 standard cabs were acquired cheap, hoping to create shells for BNSF Executive SD70Macs) 9) Spud Local, Wenatchee to Quincy (Power and cars are good, could use those Intermountain Cold Train reefers if they ever make them) 10) Misc work train, special equipment moves (I should pick up a BN GP30 to patch into BNSF sometime. Or a GP39e rebuild with an angled cab... otherwise, the side dump cars were usually staged at Gold Bar, Boeing airframes were regular moves, and the Hobo Tim'z heavy duty flat is for delivering generators to the Voltage dam and power plant) I have a lot to keep me busy still, while waiting for Dash-9's. If they never come, then I'll just pick up what ES44AC chassis I can and make shells. The layout is going to take a few years anyway. You can't fault AZL, like any other manufacturer, for doing the AC Gevos in order to get all the fancy NS heritage schemes on them. Dash-9's are bread and butter for doing a prototype layout in this era, but how many people are actually doing a full home sized layout in Z yet? |
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Post by smr on Jul 5, 2017 8:36:43 GMT -5
7) Merchandise 1 (Needs some Dash 9's. Would be a good train for a grundgy ATSF patched units) I have a lot to keep me busy still, while waiting for Dash-9's. If they never come, then I'll just pick up what ES44AC chassis I can and make shells. The layout is going to take a few years anyway. You can't fault AZL, like any other manufacturer, for doing the AC Gevos in order to get all the fancy NS heritage schemes on them. Dash-9's are bread and butter for doing a prototype layout in this era, but how many people are actually doing a full home sized layout in Z yet? Hi Skibbe, I offered three AZL brass ATSF Dash-9's quite some time ago. All three road numbers. They are still with me.   If you want one or more, send me an e-mail. All the best, Sven  |
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Post by shamoo737 on Jul 5, 2017 8:57:22 GMT -5
Mike, I am surprised that are this deep in z. I always thought you are deep in n, and has some z. I guess you have lot more n scale stuff.
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Post by DAZed on Jul 5, 2017 9:44:00 GMT -5
I'm stuck in 2007-2008. So I can't really use the ES44AC's (delivered in 2009) but still had to buy three as stand ins. First off, love your display case. Yes, I know I've said that before but it looks really cool, and neat to see the trains you are constructing. Just to clarify for others. I believe when you say "can't use ES44AC's" you are referring to the specific road numbers offered by AZL, (which were indeed delivered in 2009) not the overall BNSF lifespan which would easily fall into your era choice. For example, the BNSF Heritage-II ES44AC's in question were delivered October of 2003 through April of 2004. These were "Pre-production Gevo's" (and yet oddly still labeled AC4400's by BNSF) but externally one would be hard pressed to pick the nits between those and the later "Production" units. Besides those 30, you have 546 BNSF ES44AC's in the Swoosh scheme through the end of 2008. I model a similar era, leaning more toward 2006-2007 if I were to move forward with a BNSF-only layout. My current TRE/DGNO/BNSF layout pushes more into 2008 and perhaps beyond a bit, but I have been crafting most of the locos and rolling stock with a slightly earlier end point in mind. (Yes, my SD70ACe is the non-iso cab version. ) I did buy one of the ES44AC's....by 2007 the Swoosh ES44's would have been common enough that one would be appropriate for my small roster. I'll overlook the '09 number series discrepancy....life's too short.  |
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Post by Rob Albritton on Jul 5, 2017 12:34:44 GMT -5
Thats one good lookin' wall!!! |
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Post by skibbe on Jul 5, 2017 14:25:02 GMT -5
Just to clarify for others. I believe when you say "can't use ES44AC's" you are referring to the specific road numbers offered by AZL, (which were indeed delivered in 2009) not the overall BNSF lifespan which would easily fall into your era choice. Yep, you've got it. The AZL units chosen were delivered after my era. But like you said, I can overlook that specific for the time being. Lots of other little things to fix before that hits the top of the list! |
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Post by skibbe on Jul 5, 2017 14:44:46 GMT -5
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Post by modelwarships on Jul 5, 2017 14:58:44 GMT -5
Thank you, keep it up. I would buy the ES44AC or DC in H2. |
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Post by dave on Jul 6, 2017 20:53:56 GMT -5
I finally broke down and purchased a BNSF ES44AC. I figured with a Heritage II at least 2 years out, I need some sort of BNSF loco to pull my few cars and I can mix in a couple of Swoosh cars now as well.
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Post by ugeesta on Jul 7, 2017 6:57:12 GMT -5
The beauty of running a non-landscaped track is I don't need to worry about eras and the proper engines for the landscape, etc. that being said, since I picked up the D&RGW F3, I find myself looking for more era specific rolling stock for it. This hobby is like guns and tattoos (or Lays Potato Chips): one can never have enough.
Thanks Hans and Rob for feeding the addiction.
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Post by mgatdog on Jul 7, 2017 7:14:24 GMT -5
I finally broke down and purchased a BNSF ES44AC. I figured with a Heritage II at least 2 years out, I need some sort of BNSF loco to pull my few cars and I can mix in a couple of Swoosh cars now as well. Dave It's not what you wanted ,but still nice looking engine. It's hard not to buy some of AZL new releases in past couple years. I find myself buying engines that you don't see on my side of the country. |
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Post by mgatdog on Jul 7, 2017 7:38:07 GMT -5
The beauty of running a non-landscaped track is I don't need to worry about eras and the proper engines for the landscape, etc. that being said, since I picked up the D&RGW F3, I find myself looking for more era specific rolling stock for it. This hobby is like guns and tattoos (or Lays Potato Chips): one can never have enough. Thanks Hans and Rob for feeding the addiction. Ugeesta You sound like me. I keep buying different eras and railroads. I need to stick with my B&O and Chessie System. I've been planing for years on my layout and still have no layout. It's hard to figure how you can run units from west coast on B&O era layout. Or maybe just build 2 or 3 layouts.😳😄 |
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Post by davestubbs on Jul 8, 2017 16:09:01 GMT -5
Just got mine, what a gem runs great, quiet, working ditch lites. Really nice model once again thanks AZL outstanding Job Fiber optics nice  |
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