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Post by DAZed on Jun 29, 2017 18:29:14 GMT -5
Also, to clarify: -BNSF Heritage II era: Mid/Late 1997-2017 -BNSF Heritage III era: Mid 2005-2017 As applied to GE diesels. Ok Doug, sorry for mistaking, I thought Heritage II was no more current... Dom No worries Dom, apparently you're not the only one that thought this.  |
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Post by mgatdog on Jun 30, 2017 21:27:46 GMT -5
Thank you for being patient. Testing ES44ACs at the moment and it is going well. The locomotives be part of our early July releases. BNSF and NS "Monon" are first out the door. Sincerely, Hans Hans Were are the Monongahela ES44's? Thought they were to be with BNSF release. |
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Post by ztrack on Jul 1, 2017 10:10:55 GMT -5
Look for the NS Heritage units to be released mid-month.
Rob
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Post by pmx on Jul 1, 2017 14:41:58 GMT -5
On the topic of paint schemes for the ES44's, I see the CP without the Golden Beaver logo in your photos. I don't expect you did with and without scheme for this first run. So if sales without the Golden Beaver are satisfactory could you do it with with Golden Beaver logo on the next run along with the aforementioned BNSF Heritage II scheme?
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Post by Rob Albritton on Jul 1, 2017 16:31:37 GMT -5
On the topic of paint schemes for the ES44's, I see the CP without the Golden Beaver logo in your photos. I don't expect you did with and without scheme for this first run. So if sales without the Golden Beaver are satisfactory could you do it with with Golden Beaver logo on the next run along with the aforementioned BNSF Heritage II scheme? Paul E. Product requests never hurt! They only show enthusiasm, and encourage us to make them in the future. |
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Post by modelwarships on Jul 1, 2017 20:46:39 GMT -5
What does that mean? If you want a BNSF ES44AC, buy it now. Waiting for the perfect color will take at least 2 years, and maybe 3-4 years. I bought all three BNSF Roadnumbers last night and would buy H2's if released. Like others have said BNSF is a mixed bag of paint schemes and for realism, I like to break up the perfect paint schemes consist a little, some H2 would help. Mixing in some BN and ATSF helps too. One other thing, please do a little research before slapping on H2 or any other scheme. Study pics and make sure you match up subtle things like headlight locations and other details. Z is hard enough to work on those of us with big thumbs and diminishing eyesight, without subjecting us to making modifications to our very expensive little engines. |
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Post by Rob Albritton on Jul 2, 2017 8:02:23 GMT -5
One other thing, please do a little research before slapping on H2 or any other scheme. Study pics and make sure you match up subtle things like headlight locations and other details. Hi Tim, I totally agree with you. Research is critical. We aim to be as accurate and prototypical as possible. I only wish real railroads would do the same before slapping on H2. Did I happen to mention our new Canadian National ES44AC?    But on a serious note, it is very clear that you guys would like to see us to a BNSF ES44AC in H2. We will add it to the list. Best, -Rob(A) AZL |
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Post by fulingyu on Jul 2, 2017 10:55:54 GMT -5
I know this has probably already been stated but what road names are going to be offered in the first run? My accountant/wife might release emergency funds for a loco purchase. UP NS BNSF CSX Ferromex KCS CP CN NS-Heritage (Subscription program) ...and a few others! Which scheme will be for the KCS? Solid gray or "Southern Belle"? Also, will the UP have "flagged" and "non-flagged" versions? |
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Post by Dude on Jul 2, 2017 11:22:42 GMT -5
What does the railroad number mean? If you look at the number does it tell you where the train is from? What is its purpose? Im looking to get one of these and want to choose a number that I think is best for where I live if it does have some relevance.
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Post by markm on Jul 2, 2017 11:39:21 GMT -5
Dude,
Generally speaking the number is a unique identification, like a car's license plate. Frequently, a particular engine will be assigned to a specific route or region, You might want to search ES44AC and the railroad and your region in the photo archives to select a particular number.
Some railroads, like SP used the number on the lead engine to indicate the train/route number.
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Post by Rob Albritton on Jul 2, 2017 11:54:40 GMT -5
Which scheme will be for the KCS? Solid gray or "Southern Belle"? Also, will the UP have "flagged" and "non-flagged" versions? UP = flag only (as far as I know, they all had flags, but Hans is the Master of this project, so he has the research for it. There are a few special locomotives that do not have the Flag, like the Boy Scouts unit, and the Komen Breast Cancer unit, but the "standard" livery has the flag.) KCS = " Southern Belle" |
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Post by Rob Albritton on Jul 2, 2017 12:03:18 GMT -5
On the topic of paint schemes for the ES44's, I see the CP without the Golden Beaver logo in your photos. I don't expect you did with and without scheme for this first run. So if sales without the Golden Beaver are satisfactory could you do it with with Golden Beaver logo on the next run along with the aforementioned BNSF Heritage II scheme? Paul E. Hi Paul, Hans is the master of research on the ES44AC project, and he is away for a summer holiday, but I did a bit of research and I could not find pictures of any GE ES44AC CP locomotives with the Golden Beaver Logo. Can you point me to a picture of the ES44AC with the Beaver logo? Does anyone know if the Beaver logo was ever actually applied to the ES44AC? I did find the Beaver Logo applied to the GE AC4400CW, which is similar to the ES44AC, but sadly it is not the same locomotive. Thanks, -Rob |
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Post by DAZed on Jul 2, 2017 13:12:18 GMT -5
Which scheme will be for the KCS? Solid gray or "Southern Belle"? Also, will the UP have "flagged" and "non-flagged" versions? UP = flag only (as far as I know, they all had flags, but Hans is the Master of this project, so he has the research for it. There are a few special locomotives that do not have the Flag, like the Boy Scouts unit, and the Komen Breast Cancer unit, but the "standard" livery has the flag.) KCS = " Southern Belle" One tactic to use when deciding what your market may want is....look at other scales. That will also give you a good idea of what versions are available for the respective railroads. Just a thought. Example: www.nscalesupply.com/fvm/FVM-GE-ES44AC.HTMLEDIT: Please don't do the AM or V&O. <Sigh> You are correct, all of the "normal" ES44AC's have flags. The major difference in the standard scheme is the red frame stripe in earlier versions versus the yellow in later versions after the mandate of yellow or white striping. (don't know what year that was off the top of my head....thinking 2008 or something.) Some of us would be very interested in the red stripe version eventually as well. (from your ads it appears the yellow stripe is this round, but that is of course speculation.) |
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Post by pmx on Jul 2, 2017 14:45:51 GMT -5
Hi Paul, Hans is the master of research on the ES44AC project, and he is away for a summer holiday, but I did a bit of research and I could not find pictures of any GE ES44AC CP locomotives with the Golden Beaver Logo. Can you point me to a picture of the ES44AC with the Beaver logo? Does anyone know if the Beaver logo was ever actually applied to the ES44AC? I did find the Beaver Logo applied to the GE AC4400CW, which is similar to the ES44AC, but sadly it is not the same locomotive. Thanks, -Rob Rob, I stand corrected, I was looking at the AC4400CWs and didn't realize that CP didn't apply it to any of the Gevos. On a side note there was one special paint scheme for CP, 8858–8877 were painted to promote the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver. So all good for now. (Until you and Hans the AC4400CW or SD9043 to your stable of locos.  ) ~Paul E. |
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Post by fulingyu on Jul 2, 2017 16:11:15 GMT -5
Which scheme will be for the KCS? Solid gray or "Southern Belle"? Also, will the UP have "flagged" and "non-flagged" versions? UP = flag only (as far as I know, they all had flags, but Hans is the Master of this project, so he has the research for it. There are a few special locomotives that do not have the Flag, like the Boy Scouts unit, and the Komen Breast Cancer unit, but the "standard" livery has the flag.) KCS = " Southern Belle" Rob, thanks for the quick reply. UP - the reason I ask about this is because there's a UP staging area a couple of cities away for intermodals and there are a lot of engines at various times. I see most of the UP locos have the flags on the side but there are some that don't have the flag. I'm not able to get up close to check but the vast majority look like ES44's. The pix that Hans showed has the Gevo with the flag on the side so I was wondering if there would be two versions - flagged and flagless. Kind of like with your UP SD70M - I have two with flags on the side and two with out flags KCS - that's great that it will be Southern Belle. MTL is releasing a passenger set this December in Southern Belle colors. www.micro-trains.com/index.php?_route_=z-scale/pre-orders-1908769949&product_id=2659The Gevo will look great pulling these cars. A very attractive and eyecatching train for sure. Maybe you could time the release of KCS to coincide with MTL to create this train in December? I know that I'm going to make one. |
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