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Post by stevew on Mar 15, 2024 9:32:05 GMT -5
Looks great! You are certainly moving quick (as compared to my glacial layout progress lol).
Steve W
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Post by einot on Mar 16, 2024 4:20:21 GMT -5
And here’s a train running!
-Eino
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Post by einot on Mar 17, 2024 1:43:25 GMT -5
Hopefully no one takes this as spamming, but I’m so excited that things are moving forward. Here’s a video of two trains running:
Would be just great if there was a way to speed match analog locos thou… I have two more cables unused on my control board connectors, so I think I add one more RC02 speed controller for the hidden track section, where I can slow down the faster train, rather than doing it at the front of the layout. The hidden tracks are easy to take off and add insulators.
-Eino
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Post by einot on Mar 23, 2024 3:22:26 GMT -5
Hi!
Testing ground cover, greens and ballast on this video:
-Eino
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Post by Scott on Mar 23, 2024 16:54:00 GMT -5
Einot,
Your work-in-progress vids are much appreciated.
Not an easy thing to do is to document one’s work while working.
You’ve added granularity to your base landform or terrain. Looks like the addition is topical. I do that too—Apply various size sands by taping them in cheesemaker spoons while Sculptamold is setting.
some suggestions
• Two-tone minimum for anything having to do with texture or color. Let that be a guiding principle.
• Work with two turfs. (Two-tone minimum.) You can lay one over the other. You can mix the two in varying proportions. You can contrast one tone against the other. Lots of variety available with two tones. Consider Scenic Express model landscape supplier in the US.
prototype ballast
(A) Ballast I see never touches the surrounding terrain. More often than not, cinderbed is visible between the ballast and turf. That is my observation from life.
(B) Ballast tends to be at almost the same height as the railroad ties. More often than not, then, railroad ties appear sunk in. That is my observation from life.
For me there’s a (C) and (D) too.
Not sure if you’re competing, but you don’t necessarily need more than terrain and turf for something to look complete. That may be something you may wish to consider.
Very impressed. You’ve taught me much. I’d raise a glass to you, but it counters my six-miles a day exercise.
I thank you.
Scott
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Post by Tiest van Gool on Mar 24, 2024 20:46:40 GMT -5
Love to see this coming along. Tiest
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Post by einot on Mar 25, 2024 4:36:01 GMT -5
Thank you for your kind words guys.
I totally agree with the 3 tone minimum. I use three different tones of Woodland Scenics fine turf for the grass.
For the ground cover I use a mix a playground sand with beige and stone tile grout with different ratios, so that the dirt has some variation in colour. I plan to use weathering powders later on also.
Scott, can you please ellaborate this: "More often than not, cinderbed is visible between the ballast and turf." there maybe a language barrier for me?
BR, Eino
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Post by einot on Apr 7, 2024 3:11:23 GMT -5
Se here’s how thing look today: and a short video: exhibition’s in six week and I have at least two weekends for other plans… Schedule’s quite tught! BR, Eino
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Post by Scott on Apr 7, 2024 15:47:46 GMT -5
“Scott, can you please elaborate this: ‘More often than not, cinderbed is visible between the ballast and turf.’ There maybe a language barrier for me. … BR, Eino.” What country you in, if you don’t mind? There’s a kind of railroad earth between the bottom edge of the ballast and the surrounding terrain. That “railroad earth” railroaders refer to as cinderbed or railroad mud. The color comes mostly from years and years of steam engine soot. When modeling that railroad mud, many actually mix in soot black. There’s a bluish tinge too. For that many actually mix in a lapis-like blue. This is why you sometimes see in the magazines Payne’s gray as being mentioned for a useful model railroad color. Payne’s gray is different from India ink and charcoal, as it is a kind of slate gray. The original Payne’s gray was French ultramarine blue reduced with soot black. (Payne was a British watercolorist. French just means the common deep shade. Ultramarine means beyond the sea because Italian Renaissance painters used to wait for blue stones to come into port.) Scenic Express offers a good example of the shade of which I am speaking. In fact it’s cinderbed in a bottle. Well, whuddya know? … They call theirs cinder blend and offer it under ore as a granular material: www.sceneryexpress.com/Loads_Ores/products/1291/For me cinderbed is not a shade of ballast but the color of the ground along side of it. I am suggesting that tone not as a ballast but as an earth mix. Point is, no matter what the time or place, look for that transitional tone between ballast and the land through which the train is travelling. You will see a kind of railroad earth … MOST … OF … the time. The attached model Western Maryland locomotive photo shows transitional tone. (Googled: railroad cinderbed.): Most model railroads look like roadbed laid on a golf course. Witness the attached model Baltimore and Ohio locomotive with no transitional tone: That you don’t want. Something to think about. MOST … OF … the time, Scott Attachments:
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Post by Tiest van Gool on Apr 7, 2024 17:02:27 GMT -5
Elinor,
I think what you’re doing with the ballast and ground cover is AWESOME! I am working on my son’s train table as we speak and your guidance has been great.
-Tiest
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Post by Scott on Apr 7, 2024 17:50:50 GMT -5
Elinor, I think what you’re doing with the ballast and ground cover is AWESOME! I am working on my son’s train table as we speak and your guidance has been great. -Tiest Thank you.
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Post by mgatdog on Apr 7, 2024 20:22:39 GMT -5
Eino
Nice layout !
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Post by einot on Apr 8, 2024 13:20:01 GMT -5
Thanks guys! Scott, I’m from Finland, thank you for asking. Ah, now I understand what you mean. I don’t think cinder has been used for several decades now? At least in the reference photos I’m using there’s no cinderbed visible. Like this for example: BR, Eino
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Post by Scott on Apr 8, 2024 18:45:54 GMT -5
Einot,
Finland. Far out! Thank you for saying so.
Though diesel residue is a soot contributor, steam era stuff is still there in the ground. That is why I used the word “mostly”: “The color comes mostly from years and years of steam engine soot.”
Many reference photos show no soot color on the mainline. That is why I used twice and emphatically the phrase “MOST … OF … the time.”
For me it’s rare to see grass or some other landform ebb up to mainline track with no transitional tone.
Also, for me—Honest truth here: Your attachment launches an image of the Craig Scott Smiley album cover.
Looking forward to final photos of your much-admired project,
Nice to exchange notes,
Best,
Scott
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Post by einot on Apr 10, 2024 23:28:55 GMT -5
Thank you Scott,
Yeah I don’t know why the pictures opens that album cover…
I’ll most likely eventually add some weathering along the ballast that will give some of the effect you are referring to. It’s hard to estimate what is the minimum detail level that will actually look nice. Wether prototypical or not. Although my layout is not prototypical at all, maybe it can have individual scenes that look like something that could excist out there.
BR, -Eino
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