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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2015 16:23:44 GMT -5
August will be a very long month.
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Post by smr on Jul 28, 2015 1:58:33 GMT -5
Update on Brass Steam: We have commissioned TWO brass stream projects. It will take about 12-18 months before delivery. I don't want to give away too much yet because I have not seen any design drawings, but some information is appropriate: 1) They are completely separate projects with different wheel configurations 2) They will come as locomotives only, or you will be able to acquire them with a complete set of cars that were prototypical to the locomotives. 3) They were both mentioned on multiple "wish lists" from some of our best clients. Best, -Rob(A) Just to re-iterate it, a medium-big sized steam engine that can run most track curves would be ideal for every model railroader I believe. Something like this Santa fe beauty (4-8-4):
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Post by dazed on Jul 29, 2015 14:02:29 GMT -5
My List:
Existing or Imminent: RDC1 - Undec or preferably Trinity Railway Express C44-9W - BNSF H2, ATSF Silver Warbonnet ES44AC - BNSF H2 SD70M - BN/BNSF Grinstein Green/Cream (foobie, but in lieu of actually releasing an SD70MAC, I would buy a couple)
New Tooling: ES44DC - BNSF (In lieu of more C44-9W's, and assuming this would be a natural progression from the AC) Dash 8-40B and Dash 8-40BW (and mech could be used for -7's ala Atlas) BNSF, ATSF Silver Warbonnet, (BW) LMX (B) SW1500 - RailAmerica/DGNO P42DC - Amtrak SD40-2 - Various GP7U - ATSF
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Post by dblevins on Aug 2, 2015 9:54:16 GMT -5
I want to jump into Z with a Civil War era starter set, but all I see are modern steam and diesel. Where are the historical sets? Any at all?
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Post by markm on Aug 2, 2015 11:19:26 GMT -5
Welcome to the group. I'm afraid there isn't much from the Civil War era in Z. The closest thing I can think of is the Marklin 81419 "Casey Jones" set. It still seems to be available new and used.
Mark
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Post by Guba on Aug 2, 2015 19:56:17 GMT -5
I have the Casey Jones set. And I have to admit, I've also been wondering where the old American 4-4-0's have been hiding. In HO scale the 4-4-0's were in all the starter sets, or so it seemed. I've been watching for some Civil war era train sets in Z scale. Hint, hint....
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Post by smr on Aug 30, 2015 9:21:37 GMT -5
I'm going to rain on this new thread... nothing personal, though. I'm 55. I know a lot of folks in Z are older than me. I see a few problems with Z-scale in such a wish list. This appeals to the older crowd. Z-scale is limited. As we all get old, that sales base diminishes through natural attrition. You have one Z-scale manufacturer that is deeply rooted in European prototypes... which is completely understandable. You have another manufacturer that is deeply rooted in Japanese prototypes. You have an U.S. manufacturer that continues to churn out dated releases every month, with an owner that really doesn't care about this scale... with very little chance of seeing any type of new equipment. While these releases appeal to the current sales base, it does nothing to increase future sales, nor bring new folks in to the scale. How many boxcars do you see on the rails today with roofwalks? How many F-7's do you see pulling strings of hoppers, double-stacks, or tank-cars? Then, you have AZL. AZL is a mixed bag of releases... with a lot in the works for the future. I know a lot of folks want steam... and, more steam. Steam is great, but it's not going to bring in new folks to this scale. Folks younger than 40 want to see the roads and equipment they see now. My "wishlist" is for more modern releases. The heritage fleets really need to be produced in Z-scale, as have been done in other scales. It's a matter of numbers... continue to churn out old equipment to please an aging sales base, only to watch sales decline as that same base gets smaller and smaller. Or... ramp up "newer" equipment in an effort to seriously bring in new folks to our scale. And... no... I'm not an AZL fan-boy. I've probably been one of the most critical of AZL in the past. But, for American equipment releases... AZL seems the only one interested in laying out $$$ to continue this scale. There are other players in this scale, but have such a little output, they are just "riding the rails" of the bigger guys. Just my worthless "2 cents". The AZL announcements at the NTS are mirroring your perception. I am your age and I am torn between the two borders, I love steam and I am deeply impressed by the new Diesel engines! However, creating layouts is where my heart lies, and the bigger sizes of engines and trains demand for even bigger layouts - could generate a problem in the future, in Japan and in Europe space is already today limited. We will see!
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Post by Rob Albritton on Aug 30, 2015 9:48:23 GMT -5
An update regarding our Steam Brass products.
Hans mentioned in another thread that we will announce one more product today at the last day of NTS 2015 here in Portland. This is in addition to the SD70ACe and P42 announced already.
What we will NOT announce today is the upcoming brass steam projects.
These two are very early in the design process. Once we have a much better idea of production dates, we will then announce the projects. We like to announce about 6 months before delivery. That is our target, and I assume the brass steam is still more than 1 year away. If we could do it quicker, we would, but we have to work with our factory partners and they have many, many clients who all want their products yesterday.
So relax and enjoy the ride. The brass steam is coming!
Best Rob A AZL
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Post by bgwamac on Aug 30, 2015 15:22:56 GMT -5
My vote is for an SD9. These locomotives have been around since 1954 and can still be found running today in the Pacific Northwest and elsewhere. They were purchased by sixteen or seventeen class 1 railroads according a quick search and have been used as switchers and road power. The Chicago and North Western used them in commuter service. The variety of paint schemes applied to these engines on popular railroads would help AZL satisfy a wide range of modelers in different geographical areas and modeling eras. Two examples would be the SP and GN/BN/BNSF. SP SD9s were delivered in the black widow scheme, repainted into the bloody-nose scheme, and also saw the Kodachrome scheme. Great Northern schemes included Omaha orange, Big Sky blue, then BN Cascade green and BNSF schemes. Other roads include the Portland and Western, Chessie, Port of Tillmook Bay...I'm sure you can add more.
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Post by domi on Aug 30, 2015 17:21:27 GMT -5
I indeed do love the SD9 but I would vote for GE U-Boats or Dash7s... Dom
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Post by smr on Aug 31, 2015 2:57:36 GMT -5
My vote is for an SD9. These locomotives have been around since 1954 and can still be found running today in the Pacific Northwest and elsewhere. They were purchased by sixteen or seventeen class 1 railroads according a quick search and have been used as switchers and road power. The Chicago and North Western used them in commuter service. The variety of paint schemes applied to these engines on popular railroads would help AZL satisfy a wide range of modelers in different geographical areas and modeling eras. Two examples would be the SP and GN/BN/BNSF. SP SD9s were delivered in the black widow scheme, repainted into the bloody-nose scheme, and also saw the Kodachrome scheme. Great Northern schemes included Omaha orange, Big Sky blue, then BN Cascade green and BNSF schemes. Other roads include the Portland and Western, Chessie, Port of Tillmook Bay...I'm sure you can add more. SD9`s would be a very good suggestion. I would go for as many SP and Chessie`s as I can get............ AZL please consider! Best, Sven
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 4:22:00 GMT -5
An update regarding our Steam Brass products. Hans mentioned in another thread that we will announce one more product today at the last day of NTS 2015 here in Portland. This is in addition to the SD70ACe and P42 announced already. What we will NOT announce today is the upcoming brass steam projects. These two are very early in the design process. Once we have a much better idea of production dates, we will then announce the projects. We like to announce about 6 months before delivery. That is our target, and I assume the brass steam is still more than 1 year away. If we could do it quicker, we would, but we have to work with our factory partners and they have many, many clients who all want their products yesterday. So relax and enjoy the ride. The brass steam is coming! Best Rob A AZL We the people demand brass steam yesterday!...lol only joking. I'm really looking forward to having a compete set of NS heritage units with the release of the sd70ace! Excellent choice.
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Post by dawdawes on Oct 11, 2015 2:32:02 GMT -5
I am split, I love all the New EMD and GE locos but for modelling it has to be Gen 1 and 2 for me nothing newer than GP 38 I would like to see older GE like the U boats, and livery for me is Milwaukee and Soo. Easy repaints of current AZL GP 30 and New F3s
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Post by dawdawes on Oct 19, 2015 11:25:31 GMT -5
I'm going to rain on this new thread... nothing personal, though. I'm 55. I know a lot of folks in Z are older than me. I see a few problems with Z-scale in such a wish list. This appeals to the older crowd. Z-scale is limited. As we all get old, that sales base diminishes through natural attrition. You have one Z-scale manufacturer that is deeply rooted in European prototypes... which is completely understandable. You have another manufacturer that is deeply rooted in Japanese prototypes. You have an U.S. manufacturer that continues to churn out dated releases every month, with an owner that really doesn't care about this scale... with very little chance of seeing any type of new equipment. While these releases appeal to the current sales base, it does nothing to increase future sales, nor bring new folks in to the scale. How many boxcars do you see on the rails today with roofwalks? How many F-7's do you see pulling strings of hoppers, double-stacks, or tank-cars? Then, you have AZL. AZL is a mixed bag of releases... with a lot in the works for the future. I know a lot of folks want steam... and, more steam. Steam is great, but it's not going to bring in new folks to this scale. Folks younger than 40 want to see the roads and equipment they see now. My "wishlist" is for more modern releases. The heritage fleets really need to be produced in Z-scale, as have been done in other scales. It's a matter of numbers... continue to churn out old equipment to please an aging sales base, only to watch sales decline as that same base gets smaller and smaller. Or... ramp up "newer" equipment in an effort to seriously bring in new folks to our scale. And... no... I'm not an AZL fan-boy. I've probably been one of the most critical of AZL in the past. But, for American equipment releases... AZL seems the only one interested in laying out $$$ to continue this scale. There are other players in this scale, but have such a little output, they are just "riding the rails" of the bigger guys. Just my worthless "2 cents". The AZL announcements at the NTS are mirroring your perception. I am your age and I am torn between the two borders, I love steam and I am deeply impressed by the new Diesel engines! However, creating layouts is where my heart lies, and the bigger sizes of engines and trains demand for even bigger layouts - could generate a problem in the future, in Japan and in Europe space is already today limited. We will see!
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Post by dawdawes on Oct 19, 2015 11:27:04 GMT -5
I am in the UK and yes we struggle for space, my new Milwaukee is only 55 x 27 and yes 1960/70 so all early diesel and mixed box cars
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