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Post by smr on Jul 11, 2017 2:18:41 GMT -5
..... and SP 4444 a little bit closer.........  .....and some of the coaches ........  |
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Post by smr on Jul 11, 2017 2:23:20 GMT -5
.....the fresh green colours in the first morning light........  ...while some are still in the shadow....  Enjoy the journey into the glorious Espee history. Best, Sven PS: Let's see if we can catch the afternoon train in its beautiful daylight colours, too  |
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Post by Rob Albritton on Jul 11, 2017 9:09:47 GMT -5
.....the fresh green colours in the first morning light........ View Attachment...while some are still in the shadow.... View AttachmentEnjoy the journey into the glorious Espee history. Best, Sven PS: Let's see if we can catch the afternoon train in its beautiful daylight colours, too Now that is a VERY rare set indeed!!! |
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Post by smr on Jul 16, 2017 12:25:32 GMT -5
A more recent AZL jewel,...   Espee at its finest, working the car float........... |
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Post by markm on Jul 18, 2017 11:08:27 GMT -5
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Post by smr on Jul 19, 2017 1:40:34 GMT -5
Yes, I remember. Wasn't there a Z scale layout "Feather River Canyon" in the Model Railroader some time ago? Svein-Martin Holt did some nice work as well. www.platelayer.com/about-the-layout.aspxDid you notice his Tehachapi Loop? Best, Sven |
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Post by Tommy on Jul 19, 2017 8:29:36 GMT -5
SMR, Are Any of your layouts heading to nts this Year?
Tommy
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Post by markm on Jul 19, 2017 8:46:10 GMT -5
Sven,
You are quite correct. The layout was a multiple issue piece starting in February 1986. The layout also modeled a rail yard, similar to Portal, CA as well as a section of Nevada desert and California hills, but the Feather River section was the only part that directly matched the prototype.
For anyone who doesn't go back that far, check the MR archive, there is some interesting info on what is now the history of Z.
Mark
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Post by markm on Jul 22, 2017 21:57:31 GMT -5
Sven,
My receipt of MTLs daylight painted cars has given me a thought for a visitor to Niles Junction: the San Francisco Overland. Then I was greeted by the latest SP Trainline issue with an extensive story. It was the first long distance train I had ridden.
The unique thing about the train was typically no two cars on the train were the same. C&NW heavyweight, chair and sleeper and sometimes diner. UP heavyweight and lightweight chair and sleepers and heavyweight diner and lounge. SP heavyweight and lightweight Sleeper and chair, second diner in various combinations of Daylight, aluminum and olive green. Finally there could be a PRR sleeper (6-3 Tuscan red) or a NYC TTG. All pulled by PAs.
It would be a visitor Niles that would turn heads.
Mark
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Post by smr on Jul 23, 2017 0:11:50 GMT -5
Sven, My receipt of MTLs daylight painted cars has given me a thought for a visitor to Niles Junction: the San Francisco Overland. Then I was greeted by the latest SP Trainline issue with an extensive story. It was the first long distance train I had ridden. The unique thing about the train was typically no two cars on the train were the same. C&NW heavyweight, chair and sleeper and sometimes diner. UP heavyweight and lightweight chair and sleepers and heavyweight diner and lounge. SP heavyweight and lightweight Sleeper and chair, second diner in various combinations of Daylight, aluminum and olive green. Finally there could be a PRR sleeper (6-3 Tuscan red) or a NYC TTG. All pulled by PAs. It would be a visitor Niles that would turn heads. Mark Thank you, Mark, The San Francisco Overland Limited had in his heydays up to 20 cars. Do you know more about the head end? Which baggage cars, which mail cars to use? Where there fast freight cars, e.g. Milk cars or the SP silver cars or something like this on the train, too? Best, Sven |
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Post by markm on Jul 23, 2017 1:43:30 GMT -5
Oh so much to describe. But before I start, note that in my last post I said "CB&Q" when it should have been "C&NW". If you're interested this train used n AC-12 as a lead helper through the Sierra.
There doesn't seem to be a fast milk or RPO on this train. It was known to transport CB&Q express cars immediately behind the locos. 2-3 baggage cars SP HW, UP HW or LW. Next would come the chair cars. The examples I'm looking at are at least: UP LW, SP HW olive or SP LW Aluminum, and C&NW HW. This would be followed by a couple of food service chairs like SP HW diner in Daylight fitted as a grill then a UP HW or C&NW diner. Behind this the 6-6-4 LW sleepers, UP and SP in Daylight and aluminum and C&NW HW. There could also be UP HW and SP HW olive mixed in. The PRR & NYC TTG could be in this mix as well.
The trailing car in the early 1950 was an observation car (like Märklin). This was replaced in the mid 1950s with an SP HW chair car with marker lights and painted in UP yellow or LW aluminum. When the observation car was replaced, the train was reversed and the sleepers were up front.
At various times there were a tavern or lounge or dormitory/tavern car in the consist. But I think the key to this train is the variety of car types and colors in the train.
Mark
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Post by smr on Aug 1, 2017 4:58:03 GMT -5
I have something local here, while we all wait for the San Francisco Overland Limited.   |
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Post by smr on Aug 1, 2017 4:59:21 GMT -5
  Best, Sven |
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Post by markm on Aug 1, 2017 11:12:22 GMT -5
Nice, although CalTrain has been running safety stripes for some time: www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=708286It's unfortunate that gallery cars are so rare in Z, they would be a perfect match for your loco. Fortunately, CalTrain has started running their "Baby Bullet" train with a car style a bit more familiar to z-scalers:  These cars typically run with an Mp36PH loco, but are frequently seen with the F40s. Mark |
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Post by smr on Aug 5, 2017 14:57:44 GMT -5
Amtrak CZ on the old route passing Niles. Mark has the details  ........   |
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