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Post by mrja on Apr 22, 2015 3:49:32 GMT -5
I recently purchased a Marklin loco and set of cars from www.ajckids.com and they had pretty good service, on their website they claim to be an authorized USA Marklin dealer so as Rob said Walther's no longer has a monopoly!
[/quote] Yes... I have purchased from AJCKids several times. They have always been an authorized Marklin dealer, as are Reynauld's Euro-Imports; Euro Rail Hobbies; and Scan Galleries... even before Walthers' was the exclusive North American distributor. Being a 'dealer' and a 'distributor' are two different animals. But, it is good news to read that Walthers' no longer holds that strangle hold. |
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Post by Q fan on Apr 22, 2015 7:57:46 GMT -5
It is strange because there were way more CB&Q Way cars than there were FW&D. Are both marked for FW&D? A subsidy of a subsidy? Might be good for the BN guys running old stuff I guess.This will be another of a long list of Z items, (from all Z manufacturers by the way) where I will have to get a swab and some alcohol, and have some decals custom made to make something that is usable. I think the number of FW&D way cars could be counted on one hand. CB&Q had 10 times more. Yea strange.
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Post by zscalehobo on Apr 22, 2015 11:03:43 GMT -5
Being a 'dealer' and a 'distributor' are two different animals. But, it is good news to read that Walthers' no longer holds that strangle hold. Yes, this is good news and mrja is exactly right ... Walther's was a distributor of Marklin but they were also a dealer. The new distributor follows a pure distributorship model and does not sell directly to end users. The new distributor also has plans to make available spare parts, so I encourage everyone to check with your favorite official Marklin dealer for any Marklin spares you may need. If you need help locating items or part numbers, I am always glad to help. |
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Post by atw on Apr 22, 2015 13:14:57 GMT -5
Just a minor point of correction... The ACL did have E8B Units. 765-B and 766-B. They were acquired by the ACL in 1965 from EMD after being traded by the RF&P in that same year on an order for GP35s. They went on to be assigned SCL numbers 670-B and 671-B and both were retired in 1972 not being conveyed to Amtrak. They were the former RF&P 1052 and 1053. Yellow and black was the only ACL/SAL paint scheme that they ever wore. My regards, CliffThanks for correcting my correction - guess that means I was right in the first place  I couldn't find any pics on the web but Morning Sun's "Seaboard Coast Line in Color" does actually have two or three nice shots of E8A-B formations pulling the "Everglades". And well, some locos do look good in black (and yellow)... (hint, hint) cheers, Adrian |
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Post by Hans Riddervold (AZL) on Apr 23, 2015 6:03:47 GMT -5
Yes, I have found the ACL E8B units as well! But all the photos I have been looking at shows the later paint scheme which would be a terrible match for the Purple and Silver ACL E8A. If anyone can find an ACL E8B photo in Purple and Silver, it will be made.
Sincerely, Hans (AZL)
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Post by ztrack on Apr 23, 2015 6:59:07 GMT -5
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Post by amtk908 on Apr 23, 2015 11:50:31 GMT -5
Yes, I have found the ACL E8B units as well! But all the photos I have been looking at shows the later paint scheme which would be a terrible match for the Purple and Silver ACL E8A. If anyone can find an ACL E8B photo in Purple and Silver, it will be made. Sincerely, Hans (AZL) Hello Hans, The ACL E8B Units were never painted in Purple and Silver. They came into ACL ownership long after the change-over was made to Black and Yellow. The only way to get a "matching" set would be if you also chose to produce the E8A Units in the later Black and Yellow scheme. Of course, you could also produce both the A and B units in Seaboard Coast Line in Black and Yellow, which would be correct for anytime up to 1972. You would need to make the appropriate number changes though as they were renumbered into the SCL numbering program. All of this is outlined in my earlier post. If you need any further information, please do not hesitate to ask. Thanks and regards, Cliff |
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Post by markm on Apr 23, 2015 17:52:19 GMT -5
I can't pass up a good research project and this is a good one, even if I'm not all that knowledgeable on the east coast roads. My research agrees with Cliff. Additionally, it looks like ACL preferred E6B units and they were most likely the purple and silver "B" units, although I haven't run across photo proof of that.
Mark
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Post by amtk908 on Apr 23, 2015 21:07:26 GMT -5
I can't pass up a good research project and this is a good one, even if I'm not all that knowledgeable on the east coast roads. My research agrees with Cliff. Additionally, it looks like ACL preferred E6B units and they were most likely the purple and silver "B" units, although I haven't run across photo proof of that. Mark Hello Mark, In addition to the aforementioned E8B units, ACL had both E6B and E7B Units in Purple and Silver. The E6B Units were 750-B thru 754-B and the E7B Units were 755-B thru 764-B. All of the E7Bs were assigned SCL numbers but only two of the E6Bs survived to be assigned SCL numbers. The E6Bs came in 1940-1942 and the E7Bs came in 1945. All originally wore Purple and Silver but of an earlier scheme than what AZL is doing on their E8As. There are a number of differences but the most noticeable is the roof color, herald background and the smaller 6" letterboard "Atlantic Coast Line" on the flanks. A note on what we are calling Purple and Silver. Officially to ACL it was Purple, Aluminum and Yellow. Which is truly more descriptive of the actual colors. The AZL E8A as offered would be a unit done in the 1957 scheme with the larger 12" letterboard. In 1958 the paint scheme was officially changed to Black and Yellow which was the paint scheme that was carried into use by the SCL. Regards, Cliff |
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Post by amtk908 on Apr 24, 2015 6:47:46 GMT -5
I can't pass up a good research project and this is a good one, even if I'm not all that knowledgeable on the east coast roads. My research agrees with Cliff. Additionally, it looks like ACL preferred E6B units and they were most likely the purple and silver "B" units, although I haven't run across photo proof of that. Mark Hello Mark, In addition to the aforementioned E8B units, ACL had both E6B and E7B Units in Purple and Silver. The E6B Units were 750-B thru 754-B and the E7B Units were 755-B thru 764-B. All of the E7Bs were assigned SCL numbers but only two of the E6Bs survived to be assigned SCL numbers. The E6Bs came in 1940-1942 and the E7Bs came in 1945. All originally wore Purple and Silver but of an earlier scheme than what AZL is doing on their E8As. There are a number of differences but the most noticeable is the roof color, herald background and the smaller 6" letterboard "Atlantic Coast Line" on the flanks. A note on what we are calling Purple and Silver. Officially to ACL it was Purple, Aluminum and Yellow. Which is truly more descriptive of the actual colors. The AZL E8A as offered would be a unit done in the 1957 scheme with the larger 12" letterboard. In 1958 the paint scheme was officially changed to Black and Yellow which was the paint scheme that was carried into use by the SCL. Regards, Cliff Sorry one typo in my above. The AZL E8A as offered is done in the 1956 scheme which was the last Purple, Aluminum and yellow scheme. Still in 1958 Mr. Rice declared "paint em' black" as a cost saving measure when he succeeded Champ Davis as president of ACL in 1957. Obviously, the Purple and Aluminum was a bear and costly to keep clean and looking good. Sorry for the typo. Regards, Cliff |
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Post by amtk908 on Apr 25, 2015 13:30:49 GMT -5
Well all this talk about ACL E8As, I just had to go see one "in the flesh."
Wow! What a spectacular model! When I saw it, I just had to have one. A great runner, smooth and quiet. The units is correct in that it is powered on four axels. The center idler axle is flangeless. I have only one segment of 195mm curves and it tracked though those and my Rokuhan 110mm switches flawlessly. This unit is perhaps the best runner of the 16 AZL units that I own. The molding is exquisite! The exhaust fans are a delicate feature with a clearly defined fan housing and fins. The paint is correct, opaque and sharp. Even the complex ACL nose herald is sharp and legible. The vertical leg of the L in "Line" on the fireman's side is a bit thin but it is in the correct place directly adjacent to a side panel seam so it is a tough spot to print to. The only paint error that I could find is with the builders plate. They used artwork for a rectangular EMD plate which is incorrect for this unit; it should be an EMD oval. EMD builders plates were of the oval type starting in August 1947 and this series of ACL locomotives were built in 1950. The airhorns are not the 5-Chime cluster that ACL used; I believe they were equipped with Nathan M5s. The casting is actually a four chime but, IMHO, a much better choice than the fore-and-aft facing single chimes that most model builders would have applied and would have been dead wrong fro these units. All in all I find these exceptions to be very minor indeed; particularly considering that we are modeling in Z Scale. The unit looks great as the heritage power for my AAPRCO special mad-up of AZL heavyweights of differing roads. Now I'm just waiting for an E8/9A in SP Daylight to double head the AAPRCO train.
Hans, Rob and Rob congratulations and thanks for producing another outstanding offering for us Z Scalers. With this offering you have once again proved that AZL is the absolute gold standard producer of Z Scale models!
Thanks again and regards,
Cliff
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Post by davestubbs on Apr 28, 2015 14:29:57 GMT -5
Will we be seeing a ATSF warbonnet E8 in this run?
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Post by markm on Apr 28, 2015 16:43:57 GMT -5
Dave,
I wasn't aware that ATSF had any actual E8s. I thought they were all E1s rebuilt to E8 specs.
Mark
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Post by davestubbs on Apr 28, 2015 17:16:04 GMT -5
Yep your right Mark E1s made to E8 specs and listed as E8m my mistake.
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Post by Rob Albritton on Apr 28, 2015 22:22:31 GMT -5
Will we be seeing a ATSF warbonnet E8 in this run? One word: YES. (And it really looks good!) Hans, Rob and Rob congratulations and thanks for producing another outstanding offering for us Z Scalers. With this offering you have once again proved that AZL is the absolute gold standard producer of Z Scale models! And we thank YOU for the support! Best, -Rob(A) |
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