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Post by DAZed on Sept 8, 2023 15:24:49 GMT -5
In my best Karl Childers voice: "Mmmmmm, you know all them BNSF EMDs and GEs that flew off the shelf? Reckon the recipients of them wouldn't mind a SD40-2 in BNSF H1 paint." That's one sharp looking prototype. Just don't bump the Southern high hood. ๐ Now I'm hungry for some biscuits and mustard. I'll never know why model railroad companies are so ga-ga about the BNSF Swoosh scheme on any locomotive that remotely came close to having it. It's certainly not because of sales, as the swoosh always ends up being the locos that are easiest to find at swap meets and new-old-stock. It's one thing for locos that were delivered with it like the ES44's and SD70ACe's, but man it's frustrating to have beautiful models like AZL's SD40-2 and have to sit on the sidelines and wait another decade. Unfortunately AZL is no different than Micro-Trains, or Atlas/Kato/et al in N, so we're not getting the H1. At least until the '30s, if ever. It's a race to see which gets here first, the 2030 H-II ES44's or the 2030 H1 SD40-2. I think the Dash 2 edges by a good 6 months.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2023 5:52:56 GMT -5
I to would like to see BNSF in H1 or even H2 scheme. Also, I would hope with the more "modern" versions, ie BNSF swoosh, etc. that there would be ditch lights on them that function. It is highly frustrating especially in HO scale that high end sd-40-2 or any modern loco that is pricy does not have ditch lights. They have been mandatory since late 1997 so they should have them on the model.
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Post by DAZed on Sept 12, 2023 9:49:15 GMT -5
I'm not certain, but I know at one point AZL was saying they were going to attempt ditchlights on certain versions of the SD40-2.
I don't believe any of the models at the NTS had ditchlights, but those were likely preproduction, which may not be indicative of reality. Also they are roads that didn't have ditchlights to start with, so maybe they just aren't using that specific set of detail changes for these particular models.
Regarding BNSF, there were no SD40-2's with H2 applied. Still really bummed we're not getting an H1, yet another BNSF head-scratcher from AZL.
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Post by BAZman on Sept 14, 2023 12:47:11 GMT -5
The SD70ace had faux Ditch Lights. After removing the Headlight pair Light Pipe, I de-layered the plastic shell to drill holes up the stanchion and drill out faux round painted over lens, the attached a 0402 LED, then built a lens disburse and add some shine. Then tacked all 4 magnet wires to the inner shell to be attached to a TCS AZL4.
I expect it will be similar a single LED->Light Pipe x 3 or 4 light distributors, meaning common on/off
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Post by Hans Riddervold (AZL) on Sept 14, 2023 13:33:04 GMT -5
We are working on a second order of SD40-2s and SD40T-2 with production next year. Will consist of some paint schemes we did not get around to and probably a couple of patches too. Yes, BNSF Heritage is already on our list
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Post by DAZed on Sept 14, 2023 15:16:39 GMT -5
We are working on a second order of SD40-2s and SD40T-2 with production next year. Will consist of some paint schemes we did not get around to and probably a couple of patches too. Yes, BNSF Heritage is already on our list Hans, that is great news about the BNSF Heritage-I. Don't suppose you could comment on the patch jobs you are considering? My interest is: BN --> Patched BNSF ATSF --> Patched BNSF DRGW --> Patched UP And aside from BNSF Heritage, I would like to see the whiteface BN scheme too. Hopefully y'all still have all the pics I posted before.
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Post by modelwarships on Sept 15, 2023 14:51:18 GMT -5
And aside from BNSF Heritage, I would like to see the whiteface BN scheme too. YES! AND BNSF Patched BN Whiteface!
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Post by rgs455 on Sept 16, 2023 0:48:07 GMT -5
Hi Guys Maybe a dumb question.. will the existing Drop in decoder boards from Digitrax als be compatible with the upcoming SD40 generation? BR Boris
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Post by Rob Albritton on Sept 16, 2023 8:16:07 GMT -5
Hi Guys Maybe a dumb question.. will the existing Drop in decoder boards from Digitrax als be compatible with the upcoming SD40 generation? BR Boris That is NOT a dumb question. The answer is NO. We are transitioning to decoders that can be installed with 4 screws - one at each corner. We hope to have two common designs (hood width, and full width) but there are challenges due to various locations of LEDs for lights. The older drop-in design will stay for locomotives that already use that design. One key reason for the early common design was to make it easier for DCC producers to support Z scale. A single design allowed DCC to reach our entire product line. Z scale is growing. It is now easier for producers to make more bespoke products. We can increase the reliability of the decoder and performance of the lights with more individual designs. The market is large enough to support this now.
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Post by rgs455 on Sept 16, 2023 9:49:48 GMT -5
Hi Guys Maybe a dumb question.. will the existing Drop in decoder boards from Digitrax als be compatible with the upcoming SD40 generation? BR Boris That is NOT a dumb question. The answer is NO. We are transitioning to decoders that can be installed with 4 screws - one at each corner. We hope to have two common designs (hood width, and full width) but there are challenges due to various locations of LEDs for lights. The older drop-in design will stay for locomotives that already use that design. One key reason for the early common design was to make it easier for DCC producers to support Z scale. A single design allowed DCC to reach our entire product line. Z scale is growing. It is now easier for producers to make more bespoke products. We can increase the reliability of the decoder and performance of the lights with more individual designs. The market is large enough to support this now. Thanks Rob. A smart idea to use screws๐๐ผ๐๐ผwish more manufacturers were as innovative as AZL BR Boris
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Post by cwrr on Sept 16, 2023 15:19:57 GMT -5
And aside from BNSF Heritage, I would like to see the whiteface BN scheme too. YES! AND BNSF Patched BN Whiteface! I think there were some "Tiger Striped" versions as well?
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Post by louiez on Sept 16, 2023 16:48:44 GMT -5
Hi Guys Maybe a dumb question.. will the existing Drop in decoder boards from Digitrax als be compatible with the upcoming SD40 generation? BR Boris That is NOT a dumb question. The answer is NO. We are transitioning to decoders that can be installed with 4 screws - one at each corner. We hope to have two common designs (hood width, and full width) but there are challenges due to various locations of LEDs for lights. The older drop-in design will stay for locomotives that already use that design. One key reason for the early common design was to make it easier for DCC producers to support Z scale. A single design allowed DCC to reach our entire product line. Z scale is growing. It is now easier for producers to make more bespoke products. We can increase the reliability of the decoder and performance of the lights with more individual designs. The market is large enough to support this now. Hey Rob, Will the new decoders for the PA1s work with the SD40s? Both Digitrax (DZ126Z1) and TCS (AZL1D4) have them available. If I recall correctly, they are held in place by 4 screws.
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Post by DAZed on Sept 16, 2023 20:57:40 GMT -5
YES! AND BNSF Patched BN Whiteface! I think there were some "Tiger Striped" versions as well? SHhhhh, don't distract AZL, they need to focus. -There was only one Tiger Striped SD40-2, number 8002. It existed with the orange and black tiger stripes from 1985 until around 1991, but had two different experimental tiger stripe schemes during that time. Of note, initially the stripes wrapped around the entire nose--front and sides--which was corrected later with the sides being green. -There were three Tiger Striped SD60's. They were only on BN for less than 2 years I believe, although the scheme (patched) hung around for several years running as a lease unit for SOO Line...I think until '89 or '90. -The rest of the "tigers" were GP50's. Almost all of these got the whiteface scheme by '90. I've been trying to map out the repaint schedule since I model 1989 in N, but it's difficult as photos get mislabeled online. -There were plenty of variants during this time of various s schemes BN was testing to improve road crossing visibility. Of note two GP50's had orange and white stripes vs orange and black. They were nicknamed "creamsickles" in reference to the popular ice cream & sherbert bar with a similar color scheme. I would say we're safe, surely AZL would do something like the whiteface scheme that was on well over 100 BN SD40-2's before the one-off. But that sounds exactly like something we'll end up with. I'm less worried about the patch jobs, as they're easy enough to do after the fact. But having the base schemes like standard BN white stripes and BN whiteface is big. And BNSF H1, but I digress.
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Post by Hans Riddervold (AZL) on Oct 19, 2023 3:58:34 GMT -5
Finally! We will receive production samples next week. Hope for production in November and first delivery in December. (I said hope )
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Post by cwrr on Oct 19, 2023 18:37:59 GMT -5
Make sure you leave them out where Santa can see them-hopefully my stocking will be full!!
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