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Post by casey on Feb 26, 2024 6:17:33 GMT -5
Hello from Rotherham U.K what dcc decoder will fit into this please MICRO-TRAINS 'Z' GAUGE 980 01 252 BURLINGTON NORTHERN F-7 644 A UNIT DIESEL LOCO Attachments:
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Post by scanrail on Feb 26, 2024 8:20:59 GMT -5
Hello Casey,
Unfortunately, virtually none. The chassis needs to be heavily milled out in order to be fitted even with some small decoder. Additionally, the characteristics of the old 3-pole brushed motor used in this model are not the best in class even among brushed motors - this one is very noisy and consumes quite a high current. I would therefore recommend at least 1A decoder - just in order to stay on the safe side with this loco (of course, if you find a way to install it there).
Regards, Alex
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Post by casey on Feb 26, 2024 9:22:03 GMT -5
Hello Casey, Unfortunately, virtually none. The chassis needs to be heavily milled out in order to be fitted even with some small decoder. Additionally, the characteristics of the old 3-pole brushed motor used in this model are not the best in class even among brushed motors - this one is very noisy and consumes quite a high current. I would therefore recommend at least 1A decoder - just in order to stay on the safe side with this loco (of course, if you find a way to install it there). Regards, Alex Hi Alex many thanks for the good advice I have not bought the loco so with your knowledge will give it a miss kind regard Casey
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Post by deon4141 on Feb 27, 2024 14:20:16 GMT -5
Its not that difficult , just need to remove some of the chassis with a dremeland solder the wires to the motor and lights. I am running a A-B-A consist in UP, unfortunately the B is not powered. And the unpowered shells doesnt fit onto the powered chassis without grinding die B shell
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Post by deon4141 on Feb 27, 2024 14:22:40 GMT -5
They are noisy, from there the name coffee grinders, but thet are strong pullers. Only thing they run way faster than AZL locos or MTL GP' and SD's
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Post by BAZman on Feb 28, 2024 13:51:12 GMT -5
But worse, the power it draws. A perfect motor ‘might’ draw 100ma, if you dream. Many are 250 ma. A DCC decoder can handle it, but its not recommend. For DC, the Rokuhan won’t but some hand-helds will and the “Table Top” certainly will.
They tend to dance the wobble of an abandoned spur.
They will ‘run over fingers’ having great pulling power.
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Post by casey on Feb 28, 2024 14:49:32 GMT -5
Thanks you all for very advice time given and help kind regards Casey
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Post by tjdreams on Feb 28, 2024 18:38:59 GMT -5
Actually there is a decoder that will fit with out having to mill the chassis The ESU LokPilot micro but its only a 0.75A decoder. Read scanrail's post above. With that said I ran a pair of the MTL F7 with the ESU LokPilot micro decoders for a hour or so at our last show with out any issues. Well actually that's a lie i did have trouble with the MTL Ringling Bro's passenger cars that they were pulling constantly derailing. So after about a hour i just parked the whole Circus Train on a siding. But that had nothing to do with the locos or the decoder. Another option would be to swap in a Can Motor that draws less. My MTL F7 Can Motor Upgrade is posted over on TrainBoard
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Post by Kez on Feb 28, 2024 20:34:36 GMT -5
I stand corrected. Nice work, Dave!
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