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Post by markm on Mar 11, 2022 12:12:37 GMT -5
Thanks to AZL we have considerable stock for modeling prototypical passenger trains. I have a fair amount of knowledge of the trains around Northern California that I would be willing to share here. I know there are members here that are very knowledgeable in other areas.
Would people be interested in postings of trains that can be modeled on Z? Basically I'm thinking of dated consist lists that fit (or nearly fit) products from AZL and occasionally MTL and notes on how any why.
Any interest?
Mark
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Post by rgs455 on Mar 11, 2022 13:24:46 GMT -5
I'd suggest the D&RGW's Yampa Mail to start with now that we have a PA... Consist was so diverse.. " shake the yard".. BR Boris
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Post by Kez on Mar 11, 2022 13:46:15 GMT -5
Yes, please. Share your knowledge.
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Post by smr on Mar 11, 2022 14:27:31 GMT -5
Yes, please, Mark, I am happy to post pictures of the trains. Thank you! Best, Sven
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Post by Commodore on Mar 11, 2022 14:54:19 GMT -5
Can you custom paint an FP40?
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Post by cwrr on Mar 11, 2022 15:15:13 GMT -5
Can you custom paint an FP40? Like Amtrak in the 70's, I desparetely need an F40PH for the 70's-early 80's to go with my Superliners! I'm modeling the "Mount Rainier" trains that ran the Seattle-Salem run.
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Post by Commodore on Mar 11, 2022 20:39:05 GMT -5
OK F40PH...
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Post by robertlcollins on Mar 12, 2022 7:58:35 GMT -5
I don't have pictures myself of some of the shorter passenger trains than used to run in Kansas, but I know of examples and I can recall consists. Would posts like that be helpful?
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Post by Commodore on Mar 12, 2022 14:49:20 GMT -5
The 1 MB limit is killing the picture upload.
There is a F40PH (now up to $400) on eBay.
Paint is fine, however my casting is WAY superior.
Anybody know this vendor?
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Post by smr on Mar 12, 2022 15:19:31 GMT -5
The 1 MB limit is killing the picture upload.
There is a F40PH (now up to $400) on eBay.
Paint is fine, however my casting is WAY superior.
Anybody know this vendor?
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Yes, I know him, Rory, His name is Steve (Stephan König) and he is doing a lot of custom painting for me. Do you want to contact him? Best, Sven
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Post by Commodore on Mar 12, 2022 15:40:58 GMT -5
The 1 MB limit is killing the picture upload.
There is a F40PH (now up to $400) on eBay.
Paint is fine, however my casting is WAY superior.
Anybody know this vendor?
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Yes, I know him, Rory, His name is Steve (Stephan König) and he is doing a lot of custom painting for me. Do you want to contact him? Best, Sven Thanks, Sven:
If you make that contact for me, I would very much appreciate it!
Rory
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Post by robertlcollins on Mar 12, 2022 17:07:33 GMT -5
One of the trains I know about ran from Wichita KS to Springfield MO on the Frisco. It connected into the main Frisco passenger trains at Springfield. The power was any locomotive the Frisco wanted (I've seen shots with GP7s and E7s). The consist was usually a heavyweight baggage/rpo car, a heaveyweight baggage car, a modernized heavyweight coach, and a streamlined car (a coach or a sleeper).
Any locomotive would have to be painted. The Pullman Green heavyweight cars from AZL could be used with or without lettering. As for streamlined cars, Frisco painted theirs silver with a red roof and window band.
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Post by robertlcollins on Mar 13, 2022 18:45:04 GMT -5
One of the searches for short passenger trains that inspired my 3d printing were some of the trains the Santa Fe ran. They had some long named trains, but they also had short connecting trains throughout their system. Usually they used their passenger locomotives for those trains, but I've seen at least one photo online of a GP in the blue & yellow freight scheme pulling one. The consist tended to be a baggage car and one to three coaches.
Both AZL lightweight Santa Fe baggage cars would work. As far as passenger cars go, the lack of general streamlined passenger cars in Z was why I printed my own. For the West Texas Express, #93-94, you could put one of the AZL lightweight sleepers behind the coach and baggage car.
The Santa Fe also had #7-8, the Fast Mail Express, running between Chicago and Los Angeles. That could be done with stock passenger locos, a variety of lightweight and heavyweight baggage cars, at least a couple rpo cars, and a heavyweight coach at the end of the consist. I understand #7-8 ran for some period of time after the USPS ended the railroad mail contracts, so it would have had a lone passenger loco pulling a single coach.
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Post by robertlcollins on Mar 14, 2022 17:58:22 GMT -5
Another railroad I know a little about is the Missouri Pacific. In addition to their named trains, the MP had a number of shorter passenger trains. From what I've seen, they would have one locomotive (usually a passenger PA, but I've seen pictures of E units and FAs in use), a baggage/rpo, a baggage car, and a coach, with some also having a baggage/coach car. MP also had a train running between Wichita and Fort Scott KS that had a baggage/rpo, a coach, and a dining car. The last trains on some of their routes in the late 1950s-early 60s consisted of a baggage/rpo and a coach.
I wish I knew more about it, but MP also had a connection up from Wichita to the "Colorado Eagle." Maybe with a couple coaches and sleepers?
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Post by markm on Mar 15, 2022 0:06:14 GMT -5
Robert,
I’ve been distracted the past couple of days so I’m just getting back to this post. Thanks for getting things rolling.
I like to collect as much detail as possible regarding a train: name/number, route, years of operation, consist size, equipment types and when feasible road names/numbers and operation details useful for modeling. Fortunately you have sufficient information to research out the remaining details. For example: ATSF ran two RDCs, Dc191, Dc192, between Newton and Dodge City from 1958 to 1965 on a daily basis. The units were built in 1952 for the San Diegan route, rebuilt after an accident and transferred to Kansas. They subsequently ran between Albuquerque and El,Paso until 1968, when they were retired and sold. (AZL 62203-1, -2)
Beyond this I know nearly nothing of Kansas railroading, so your posts are appreciated. I’ve tried unsuccessfully to research the trains you described. Guess I don’t know where the “good stuff” on these trains is hidden.
Mark
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