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Post by ugeesta on Jan 15, 2022 10:06:20 GMT -5
How many of you guys don’t sleep the night of the 14th and at the end of the month? Instead of sleeping, you site there on the ZSM site and constantly refreshing the webpage to catch the next AZL release.
Those SPFE boxcars sold out in record time.
Sheesh……
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Post by oldgrog on Jan 15, 2022 11:52:45 GMT -5
I was up before 5am here in Britain, must have blinked and missed it ! They were gone before the announcement of new items appeared on the Home page about 7.20am, and they are announced here about 9 hours later - timely !
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Post by baumback on Jan 15, 2022 14:11:55 GMT -5
I received an e-mail from US Z scale at 11:07 PM Eastern Time with the part 2 announcements. I always wait until I see the announcement on those critical nights before going to bed. On many items the demand seems to be much greater than the supply. Would like to see more single B units available. Mark
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Post by matt on Jan 15, 2022 16:47:45 GMT -5
It´s annoying. Greetings Mattias
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Post by DAZed on Jan 15, 2022 17:12:19 GMT -5
Indeed, very annoying. It would be one thing if it was truly a supply/demand thing. But I feel like the small group of "speculators" pick off this stuff before the actual customers do, so they can eBay the items at artificially inflated prices once they sell out. Pretty ridiculous and shady tactic. (in Texas we have a name for these types of people, related to the solid waste product from chickens...) I wish AZL would have some type of reservation system. I have only been burned a few times on some things that weren't top priorities, but I cannot imagine missing out on something that was really key to my modeling preferences.
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Post by ugeesta on Jan 15, 2022 19:16:50 GMT -5
Agreed. Let the hobbies that want to use the product get the product. Unfortunately, the few that want to profit from it ruin it for the rest of us
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Post by Rob Albritton on Jan 15, 2022 20:14:59 GMT -5
Production numbers on the R70 mechanical refers were too small for the demand.
We are currently considering another production run.
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Post by BAZman on Jan 16, 2022 14:51:26 GMT -5
Thank you! It will help fill up a (proposed) Salinas, CA PFE module
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Post by DAZed on Jan 16, 2022 16:04:26 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2022 16:21:28 GMT -5
I hope that at least AZL distributors can make reservations for products to come ...
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Post by dave on Jan 16, 2022 20:34:59 GMT -5
This situation of things selling out immediately is one reason I left Z-Scale. These cars were obviously underproduced. I don't know if AZL is that bad at estimating how things will sell or if they are intentionally underproduced. It would make no sense to underproduce items but it happens very regularly. Maybe this is why some manufacturers, especially in N-scale, have gone to pre-orders. I can only imagine how frustrating this is to you Z-scalers.
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Post by Rob Albritton on Jan 16, 2022 20:48:39 GMT -5
This situation of things selling out immediately is one reason I left Z-Scale. These cars were obviously underproduced. I don't know if AZL is that bad at estimating how things will sell or if they are intentionally underproduced. It would make no sense to underproduce items but it happens very regularly. Maybe this is why some manufacturers, especially in N-scale, have gone to pre-orders. I can only imagine how frustrating this is to you Z-scalers. Two issues here from the AZL perspective 1) the lead time is so long between order and delivery of a new product (2 years or more) that pre-orders simply would not make sense. 2) we have to guess on production. The Mechanical refers was simply a bad guess. Sure, we like a sold out run - who wouldn’t? - but we do have the ability to order more on a much shorter time line - 4 to 6 months depending on time of year, and we do plan to order more refers.
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Post by dave on Jan 16, 2022 22:23:58 GMT -5
My opinion is that if things sell out immediately, AZL is losing out on sales, potentially, a lot of sales. I realize it is fine line between making enough but not too much. If more was made, it would slow down those secondary market prices. No one wants to pay inflated prices on the secondary market but in some cases but have no choice if they want something that sold out immediately.
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Post by BAZman on Jan 17, 2022 1:58:47 GMT -5
You really do NOT know the opposite. That is what they thought would sell, didn't. Hence the Friday deals. Look at AZL Direct (www.azldirect.com) and many Dealers that are still in stock, some released many years ago.
Its NOT an exact science (but, they can [sometimes] make re-runs).
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Post by sjl on Jan 17, 2022 12:26:55 GMT -5
I'm very sympathetic to AZL's position. There is no real way of know if demand right now is sustainable. Will we all be buying as much Z in 2025, when COVID (hopefully) is gone? AZL should be in a good place, because I think it is well ahead of the competition in terms of quality. But the signals from the present market might not be reliable.
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