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Post by ztrack on Oct 1, 2020 7:42:40 GMT -5
AMERICAN Z LINE October 2020 New Releases Part 1 ALCO RS2 - Union Pacific  The UP prototype details include: Phase I body, body mounted number boards front and corner stacked number boards rear, ALCO AAR trucks, single headlight, two single airhorns, lengthwise smokestack and 800 gallon fuel tank. One side of the cab is imprinted with ‘Serves all the West”. The other side is imprinted with “Route of the Streamliners”. 63304-1 UP RS2 1191 63304-2 UP RS2 1192 63304-3 UP RS2 1193 These popular locomotives feature a 7.5mm coreless motor, dual flywheels, traction tires, built in pilot, directional controller LEDs, body mount couplers. The coupler box is screwed in placed. EMD GP38-2s – MKT  62525-1 MKT GP38-2 304 62525-2 MKT GP38-2 311 The AZL EMD GP38-2s feature coreless motor, dual flywheels, traction tires, standard PCB board, DCC ready, directional controlled LEDs, AutoLatch TM couplers, and optional pilot or plow. See the American Z Line site for more information on these and other AZL products. www.azldirect.comRob Kluz Ztrack Distribution |
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Post by pcbpoppy on Oct 1, 2020 7:44:42 GMT -5
Having grown up with the Katy my order for both road numbers are in. Can't wait.
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Post by dazed on Oct 1, 2020 10:50:45 GMT -5
Oh man, love those M-K-T geeps! I grew up along an ex-RI line that became MKT (OKKT) in the early 80's, and my dad owned a steel business that backed up to the OKKT ROW in a nearby town. There, these MKT geeps (along with GP40's and assorted other diesel road switchers) served a huge limestone quarry and several other smaller aggregate and sand loadouts. It would make for a great layout except for the dearth of appropriate gons and hoppers in Z. The Katy also had trackage rights on the BN line that ran through my hometown and operated a local/turn a couple of times per week. The consist was more of a typical manifest freight...heavy on the covered hoppers and other rolling stock that is generally available in Z. MKT power (SD40-2's) also showed up on the Fayette Power coal trains that ran through town alongside BN power. EDIT: Here's a link that tells a little bit of the story of that turn, and using turn in the quite literal sense!  www.edisaurus.com/rr/mkt/mkt_turntable_wf.htm |
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Post by pcbpoppy on Oct 1, 2020 14:03:15 GMT -5
Oh man, love those M-K-T geeps! I grew up along an ex-RI line that became MKT (OKKT) in the early 80's, and my dad owned a steel business that backed up to the OKKT ROW in a nearby town. There, these MKT geeps (along with GP40's and assorted other diesel road switchers) served a huge limestone quarry and several other smaller aggregate and sand loadouts. It would make for a great layout except for the dearth of appropriate gons and hoppers in Z. The Katy also had trackage rights on the BN line that ran through my hometown and operated a local/turn a couple of times per week. The consist was more of a typical manifest freight...heavy on the covered hoppers and other rolling stock that is generally available in Z. MKT power (SD40-2's) also showed up on the Fayette Power coal trains that ran through town alongside BN power. EDIT: Here's a link that tells a little bit of the story of that turn, and using turn in the quite literal sense! www.edisaurus.com/rr/mkt/mkt_turntable_wf.htm😎😎😎😎 |
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Post by cwrr on Oct 1, 2020 16:33:31 GMT -5
Wow, I'm not much of a Katy fan, but that is really nice lookin'! I wonder if these will go as fast as the Alaska RR ones? |
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Post by fulingyu on Oct 2, 2020 21:26:01 GMT -5
Wow, I'm not much of a Katy fan, but that is really nice lookin'! I wonder if these will go as fast as the Alaska RR ones? Kinda doubt it. I mean I'm sure that the Katy will sell out but I don't think it will go as fast as the Alaska ones. The Katy looks really good and I'm even tempted to order one even though I'm also not a true Katy fan. The ARR release was a special case where you could get a "complete" ready to run passenger train all at the same time with the simultaneous release of the Alaska lightweights. Plus both the Alaska Geeps and the lightweights were beautiful models. I think a lot of people were swayed by the chance to get a gorgeous looking train right away. So while the Katy Geep is also very beautiful (and will no doubt, sell out), I don't think it will sell faster than the ARR ones. Not unless AZL is going to rush out a special Katy lightweight set of cars to go with it.  |
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Post by markm on Oct 3, 2020 14:21:20 GMT -5
I really think it's just a matter of inexpensive pretty rolling stock and small production size. I'm not aware of very many people actively modeling the ARR.
AZL has produced complete passenger trains in the past with only lukewarm response. Most recent the California Zephyr, a beautifully executed set and a per car price that can't be beat. But the "Silver Lady" is just that a monochrome silver. Or the brass PRR and Daylight sets. Fantastic limited editions that took a decade to sell out.
Or it could just be trains flipper who bought up a bunch of cars waiting for the "whatever happened to..." posts to release them on ebay.
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Post by fulingyu on Oct 5, 2020 1:52:39 GMT -5
You bring up a valid point about modeling ARR. In Z previously there was really only the Marklin F7ABA set and a handful of freight cars. MTL had their own F7AB set and even fewer freight cars. They did have their "standard" passenger car releases (baggage, coach, sleeper, dome) in the earlier mostly yellow scheme. Oh, and Marsillius also had some 44 chair coaches in that same scheme. But I recall some newer people to this forum saying that they were looking forward to the ARR release of Geeps and lightweights.
I just hope that this is not a foreshadowing of the coming Super Chief, as that too is a "Silver Lady". While the CZ may be more well known and iconic, I think that those who really wanted one probably already got it and probably got it immediately upon it's release. I know I ordered my set immediately from Anthony. And yes, the CZ is beautifully done but I only need one (incidentally, weren't there supposed to be two more CZ sets coming?). I got the WP ABB engines with it. I also ordered the Burlington ABA set to pull my Burlington heavyweights as they had no suitable loco power available. Not unless AZL is planning to release a Burlington E8 in injection stainless steel.
I think that the SC will be just fine as many people instinctively recognize the red "War Bonnet" even if they don't model ATSF. I'm looking forward to that set also. And since they're out of ATSF F3's, we're gonna need another run of those and maybe even some more ATSF E8 B units while we're at it.
The brass Daylight set was before my time in Z so I wasn't able to get one. But I probably would have liked the Daylight E7ABB set to go with it.
Unfortunately there will always be speculators and horders who try to make a profit out of everything. The AZL ARR Geep is going for $249 on flea bay and I've seen the original MTL lightweights with a higher than $100 opening bid. Sad.
Didn't mean to jack this thread but was just giving my two cents why I don't think the Katy will sell out faster than the Alaska. It will sell out - just not as fast I believe.
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Post by Hans Riddervold (AZL) on Oct 5, 2020 2:25:41 GMT -5
Just a general remark to passenger locomotives. AZL is gearing up with another E8 release and also the long awaited F7. We are still in the artwork phase so delivery will not be before 2021. Expect B&O, C&O, RI, KCS, SP Bloody Nose, PPR Brunswick Green and VIA E8s and ATSF, D&RGW and ARR F7s. These are all done from existing AZL tooling.
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Post by markm on Oct 5, 2020 8:53:22 GMT -5
Normally I'd just click "like" for news like this, but this time I have to take the time to say YEAH!.
It would be nice if the SP run includes #6018, the only E8 SP owned.
Mark
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Post by markm on Oct 5, 2020 8:59:50 GMT -5
fulingyu: Pretty much my exact thoughts on the subject. The key takeaway is that you can never predict what modelers will go for or why.
As a quick, final proof, a few years back I watched someone pay $150 more for a GP38-2 at auction than they could have paid on AZLDirect for the same locomotive, different road number.
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Post by gerry9253 on Oct 6, 2020 12:03:38 GMT -5
Just a general remark to passenger locomotives. AZL is gearing up with another E8 release and also the long awaited F7. We are still in the artwork phase so delivery will not be before 2021. Expect B&O, C&O, RI, KCS, SP Bloody Nose, PPR Brunswick Green and VIA E8s and ATSF, D&RGW and ARR F7s. These are all done from existing AZL tooling. Hi Good news about the E8s. Can you please say which Rock Island scheme you are considering? Regards Gerry |
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Post by Hans Riddervold (AZL) on Oct 8, 2020 3:37:38 GMT -5
RI paint scheme. There are at least 5 different paint schemes. Researching the details as I write this. It appears that RI had two early paint schemes. We will settle on one of those. Once we have the artwork approved, we will post it to the Forum.
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Post by zdave on Oct 8, 2020 13:26:37 GMT -5
fulingyu: Pretty much my exact thoughts on the subject. The key takeaway is that you can never predict what modelers will go for or why. As a quick, final proof, a few years back I watched someone pay $150 more for a GP38-2 at auction than they could have paid on AZLDirect for the same locomotive, different road number. Heh... do you suspect the auction buy was due to the specific road number? Even as small as the road numbers are in Z, I usually check the road numbers for locos before I make a purchase, to see where the real deals have been photographed, to determine if I can get numbers for an operation area I’m interested in. I can’t say I’d pay an extra $150, though. However, if a Z scale CSX SD40-2 was released with #8888 on it, I could definitely go higher than usual. |
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Post by bloodynose on Oct 9, 2020 23:08:13 GMT -5
Crazy Eights! Took off all alone with 47 freight cars! I understand it is still in service but renumbered... superstition maybe...
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