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Post by cwrr on Apr 3, 2020 0:42:21 GMT -5
Could it be possible, once you fine folks at AZL come out with the SD40-2, if you put the chassis under your SD70 with a standard cab? Just throwing it out there to possibly make a few of the Oakway SD60's that BN used in the early 90's. They were beautiful locos when new!!   |
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Post by dazed on Apr 3, 2020 10:09:06 GMT -5
Ahhh, the Oakways. Being a BN fan, I had a love for these locomotives. I had a front row seat to BN in the 80's and when these hit the rails it was special. Along with the LMX units, these were both solidly BN yet very unique and a nice contrast to the constant parade of Cascade green. I even managed to convince my parents to take a short detour in Trinidad, CO during a vacation in '86(?) so I could go see these units awaiting dispatch near downtown. (not understanding at the time that the maintenance facility was actually west of town on the C&W.) I still have that video somewhere and maybe some photos too.
AZL already offers a standard cab version of the SD70, which is still a compromise when trying to model an SD60. I'm not sure the SD40-2 chassis (even if it was a perfect match shell-wise, which I doubt. The trucks might be interchangeable though.) would make that much difference in the grand scheme. Just painting the current SD70 in Oakway colors is gonna pass for 99% of your audience anyway.
I think an SD50/60-series model would be a good candidate for them going forward. Good variety of schemes and having the Oakways and the BN SD60M's would be a great thing for BN/BNSF modelers. Just about every railroad had these including pre-80's merger schemes like Chessie, Seaboard System, Norfolk & Western, et al.
I had an undec SD70 with plans to do the Oakway scheme but then I had a lot of unexpected expenses pop up all at once last year and that SD70 was a casualty. I hope to eventually get another one but not a huge priority at the moment.
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Post by markm on Apr 3, 2020 10:22:58 GMT -5
Checking the truck c-c distance for the locomotives mentioned:
SD40-2 40'
SD60M 59'
SD70 61'
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Post by cwrr on Apr 3, 2020 13:58:32 GMT -5
Good idea about the truck swap, just gotta' wait now for the SD40-2 release......
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Post by cwrr on Apr 3, 2020 14:01:34 GMT -5
Looks like C&NW, Soo Line, and Conrail had the SD60 standard cab, as well as NS had the hand-me-downs.  |
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Post by modelwarships on Apr 3, 2020 20:09:49 GMT -5
I bought a few SD70's with this in mind. However it's more than the trucks. You need that distinctive angled blower duct on the side and some minor grill work.
But I agree with the need for AZL to offer one, and SD60 triclops and 2 window wide cab.
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Post by cjm413 on Jun 8, 2020 13:08:49 GMT -5
Checking the truck c-c distance for the locomotives mentioned: SD40-2 40' SD60M 59' SD70 61' Correct distance between truck centers: SD40-2 43'6" SD60 45'10 SD70 48'8" |
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Post by cjm413 on Jun 8, 2020 13:21:32 GMT -5
Looks like C&NW, Soo Line, and Conrail had the SD60 standard cab, as well as NS had the hand-me-downs. NS was one of the original owners of the SD60's in addition to the ex-CR units they had. NS also purchased some second-hand SD60's (built for CNW, IIRC) that were rebuilt as SD60E's. Offhand, I don't know if any were placed into service before they were rebuilt. There were also the EMD demos in EMD paint (3 sold to CR, 1 retained), three demos in BN tiger stripe paint that joined EMD's lease fleet after they were returned and later sold to CSX, the 10 units built for CSX, and UP. As a side note, EMD 3 was later retrofitted with radial trucks www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4525891 |
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Post by markm on Jun 8, 2020 15:24:17 GMT -5
Checking the truck c-c distance for the locomotives mentioned: SD40-2 40' SD60M 59' SD70 61' Correct distance between truck centers: SD40-2 43'6" SD60 45'10 SD70 48'8" Can you provide a reference for these numbers? I try very hard to post accurate info, so your data concerns me as to the validity of my sources. Mark |
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Post by cjm413 on Jun 8, 2020 19:08:24 GMT -5
Correct distance between truck centers: SD40-2 43'6" SD60 45'10 SD70 48'8" Can you provide a reference for these numbers? I try very hard to post accurate info, so your data concerns me as to the validity of my sources. Mark No problem www.hosam.com/emd/ewhb.html |
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Post by Commodore on Jun 8, 2020 19:23:49 GMT -5
Can you provide a reference for these numbers? I try very hard to post accurate info, so your data concerns me as to the validity of my sources. Mark No problem www.hosam.com/emd/ewhb.htmlBad list! No F40PH ☺️ |
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Post by cjm413 on Jun 8, 2020 20:48:16 GMT -5
Agreed - I'll send the list to bed without any dinner. Off the top of my head, I recall the F40PH is 33' |
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