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Post by tjdreams on Dec 31, 2019 20:44:16 GMT -5
Anyone have one of these things?
Are they worth the money?
Will one of these help me take better videos of my Z scale Trains?
Can they actually track a object or do they just track a human face?
whats good and whats not?
What features should i be looking for?
To make a long story short Apparently someone noticed my cell phone videos from the last train show were a bit shaky. Fast forward a few months and I get 2 Smart Phone Gimbals for Christmas.
I had never paid these things much mind before but now that i have 2 of them i need to decide which one to keep, maybe keep both or return both and get something else.
So lets here your thoughts and opinions.
Oh
I got a DJI OSMO Mobile 3
and a Zhiyum Smooth 4
and will be using them with a Samsung Galaxy S8
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Post by Admin on Jan 1, 2020 1:29:54 GMT -5
I've looked at both of these as they currently seem to be the two "hot" options out there. My 2 cents from watching enough video examples to make my head spin... the OSMO appears to be lighter and smaller, given its ability to fold up on itself for a very compact size when not in use. The Zhiyun appears to be a bit bigger, maybe bulkier but might also give a slightly smoother image just due to its size / weight. I looked at just the smoothness of the sample videos as I generally don't use a lot of the extra features.
I think they're both excellent options and don't think you can go wrong with either. I might lean towards the OSMO when its time for me to buy as the small size once folded makes it easier to throw in a bag / the car, etc. One thing you might want to look at, their use with a wide angle lens if your phone has a separate wide angle lens. With several of these gimbals, the main motor housing will / can show up in the videos.
John
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Post by Kez on Jan 1, 2020 11:52:25 GMT -5
Dave, wasn't Rob using one of these at one of our recent shows? You should talk with him next Sunday before deciding.
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Post by BAZman on Jan 1, 2020 16:36:12 GMT -5
the Zhiyum Smooth 4 reviews mostly all said can't balance on the larger new iphones >8. The specs say max Payload is 210pm (6.5 oz) so my 11 @ 8.5oz (272gm) falls into that category. And, even if a smaller (older, like a 5, 6 or 7) iphone, even the charge cable keeps it from balancing. But wow, look at the controls it has ! Too bad the reviews say the Droid app SUCKS so you have to use GoPro or others. oh, I also now see that the last iOS was 9 which is ~5yrs ago, along with the Adroid 5 so I would say that some hardware 'might' have been upgraded, it seems to be an outdated product.
The OSMO Mobile 3 has a simplistic control but better reviews.
I bought the Amazon Sponsored "3-Axis Gimbal Stabilizer" from Hohem.
I'll let you know over this coming weekends Great Train Show in Sacramento.
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Post by tjdreams on Jan 1, 2020 18:28:47 GMT -5
Well I spent a good part of new years eve and most of today reading up on and watching you tube reviews and how-to videos for both the OSMO and the Smooth 4. And as John said these 2 appear to be at the top of the list when it comes to Cell Phone Gimbals.
I've opened up the DJI OSMO Mobile 3. My Galaxy S8 with otterbox case just does fit in the clamp, the phone itself fits much better with out the case. Either way it's difficult to get it balanced just right. Putting a alignment mark on my phone case as suggested in one of the video's Looks to be a excellent idea. Otherwise you will likely miss the shot while fiddling with it to get it setup & balanced so you can start using it. I should also note that this balance issue seamed to be a factor across the board with all the phone gimbals
So far it seams to work as advertised. The Gimbal defiantly helps keep it steadier, And the auto tracking feature dose a ok job of following a person as long as they are not too close and don't make any sudden moves. I still haven't tried the auto track on a train yet I'll do that this weekend. Remembering single double or triple tap on what button dose what is going to take some practice
I like that it folds to a compact size but the case it comes with only holds the mobile 3 itself, their is no room for the tripod base it came with. Looks like i will have to order a slightly bigger case off amazon if i want to keep all the parts together in one case. The cable it came with is fine for charging the Mobile 3 but is way to stiff to use for charging the phone from it while using it on the Gimbal. I guess I'll need to get one of those flexible coiled cords to do that. Another thing i'll need to buy if i decide to keep this one.
I'll post more on it in a few days after i've had time to check out more of the features.
Jeff
I saw that review about using the smooth 4 app with Android, But i also saw a newer review where the guy was using it with a Galaxy S8 with no problems. neither review mentioned what version of the App they were using, So I'm not sure what to think about it, which is part of the reason i posted here hoping to here from someone with real life experience using it. Its Also the reason why i opened the DJI OSNO first.
David
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Post by BAZman on Jan 1, 2020 19:56:29 GMT -5
I think if have to mark the phone or clamp each time (and I know that will get bumped or kinetic energy when set down that would require rebalancing . . . .
I would before to get a near perfect start by pressing it up against the clamp surface. It may take some intermediate pieces to accomplish that.
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