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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2019 2:05:12 GMT -5
What should the approximative width be for a street INSIDE a village ? And for a small town ? I think 2 lanes would be enough (or not, for the town ? ). And should I use a "broken" centerline (white or yellow ? ). And for the streets "OUTSIDE" ? Thanks for any answer ...
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Post by Admin on Dec 23, 2019 4:05:46 GMT -5
I did a short article on the road dimensions where I live, technically this is a village but this road is considered a state highway as this little road runs from the forks of Long Island all the way in to Queens. It opens up quite a bit in parts, but this part is definitely village-like!
It's a start for you! John
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2019 6:23:41 GMT -5
Thanks for this information, but the road in the village won't "cross it", it will only lead to houses, as dead ends ; so I think I can leave the "shoulders" away, then I have a road of 24', about 3.5 cm in Z ; I can use standard "street" for N, 4 cm wide ...
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Post by markm on Dec 23, 2019 9:33:15 GMT -5
Much of the details depends on the era. Generally speaking John has the details right for a modern road or street. After about 1965 there are published standards by NHSTA (National Highway Traffic Safety Admin.)so John you really didn't need to run out in the street. Prior to that time dimensions and road marking details were more local standards. I'd suggest searching for 1950s-1960s images of towns in the area you're modelling to get a feel.
10-12 foot lane width has been common for a long time. Shoulder width depends on the road usage. In a country area where one would typically not park on the road, the shoulders can be as narrow as 2 feet, just enough space to walk. So I think that 4cm roads would work well. Generally when the road is that narrow, there will be an additional unpaved shoulder leading to a drainage ditch.
Getting into a town, I would expect a 4-6 foot parking space for parallel parking in front of businesses. As a thought, I've seen towns build the parking strip out of concrete, built when they built the adjacent sidewalks, so you could use the 4cm road material.
Road marking can get complicated. First prior to about 1965 the use of yellow lines was rare except on the interstate highways. The most likely centerline would be a broken or solid white line. Use the solid line on curves and roadway sections where it would be unwise to pass. The shoulder line would be solid white. On a residential streets/roads some or all these lines could be missing.
On city streets the center line would be more common, but not required.
Hope this helps,
Mark
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2019 10:07:40 GMT -5
Thanks for Your answer, I am modelling around 1965, so I can assume that the streets follow still the "old" standards. Heki has an asphalt street, adhesive, 4 cm wide, reference 6568, without any markings.
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Post by markm on Dec 23, 2019 10:45:50 GMT -5
I'm not familiar with the Heki product, but the texture of similar products is a bit coarse for Z. What I find interesting to model for roads are the defects: the cracks, patches potholes, and for your era, the oil stain in the center of the lane and under parking places and various other stains. John's images shows some good examples.
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Post by Admin on Dec 23, 2019 14:14:26 GMT -5
Road dimensions always make my head spin slightly, especially when it comes to things like local variances. I see this a lot near me as it's an old town area. Totally unrelated (unless you're doing turn of the century streetcars), this photo is about 1/4 mile from the photos I took for that article. Incredibly wide for the early 1900s.
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