AZL December 2019 New Items

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AZL December 2019 New Items Dec 2, 2019 7:57:54 GMT -5 markm, bnsantaray, and 4 more like this

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AMERICAN Z LINE
December 2019 New Releases

ATSF (Valley Series) - Lightweight Passenger Cars!

AZL has released thirteen cars for the ATSF Valley Series of passenger cars. The Valley series was the first smooth side streamlined sleepers purchased on the ATSF. Delivery began in June of 1942. The cars were delivered in coach green and two-tone gray. Many would be repainted in the aluminum color ‘shadow-lined’ scheme to blend in with the corrugated passenger cars. The cars later in life would be assigned to secondary trains as well as the Chief transcontinental passenger trains.

For more information, see: www.pullmanshops.com/atsfvalley.htm

73128-1 ATSF Sleeper 6-6-4 TAOS VALLEY Lightweight Passenger Car

73128-2 ATSF Sleeper 6-6-4 SWEETWATER VALLEY Lightweight Passenger Car

73128-3 ATSF Sleeper 6-6-4 HIDDEN VALLEY Lightweight Passenger Car

73128-4 ATSF Sleeper 6-6-4 BLUE VALLEY Lightweight Passenger Car

73128-5 ATSF Sleeper 6-6-4 PARADISE VALLEY Lightweight Passenger Car

73128-6 ATSF Sleeper 6-6-4 RED RIVER VALLEY Lightweight Passenger Car

73128-7 ATSF Sleeper 6-6-4 SALT RIVER VALLEY Lightweight Passenger Car

73128-8 ATSF Sleeper 6-6-4 CIMARRON VALLEY Lightweight Passenger Car

73128-9 ATSF Sleeper 6-6-4 SAN MIGUEL VALLEY Lightweight Passenger Car

73628-1 ATSF Baggage RAILWAY EXPRESS AGENCY 3918 Lightweight Passenger Car

73628-2 ATSF Baggage RAILWAY EXPRESS AGENCY Lightweight Passenger Car

73628-3 ATSF Baggage RAILWAY EXPRESS AGENCY 3811 Lightweight Passenger Car

73628-4 ATSF Baggage RAILWAY EXPRESS AGENCY Lightweight Passenger Car

See the American Z Line sites for more information on these and other AZL products.

www.americanzline.com

www.azldirect.com

Rob Kluz
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ciccino Engineer Posts: 164	AZL December 2019 New Items Dec 2, 2019 8:28:55 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by ciccino on Dec 2, 2019 8:28:55 GMT -5 Beautiful! What AZL locomotives could be the right choice, as motive power for such cars?

ztrack Administrator Posts: 1,703	AZL December 2019 New Items Dec 2, 2019 9:05:43 GMT -5 cwrr and ciccino like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by ztrack on Dec 2, 2019 9:05:43 GMT -5 AZL's ATSF E8s and F3 sets are perfect. They F3s are sold out, but we have the E8s still available. Here is a link: www.azldirect.com/azl-locomotives/e8/62601-2

cwrr Tycoon Building the Milwaukee Road in Western Washington! Posts: 1,769	AZL December 2019 New Items Dec 2, 2019 10:28:27 GMT -5 texrail, bnsantaray, and 2 more like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by cwrr on Dec 2, 2019 10:28:27 GMT -5 But a couple of Alco PA's would be spot on!!

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AZL December 2019 New Items Dec 2, 2019 11:43:27 GMT -5 texrail, Commodore, and 2 more like this

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Post by markm on Dec 2, 2019 11:43:27 GMT -5

Doing some research for modeling the Golden Spike centennial trains I have a couple of notes for these cars that might be of interest. Two valley series cars took part in the LA-Ogden-LA Gold Spike centennial train: Verde Valley and Mescalero Valley, both in shadow line. The train also pulled 3 ACF 4-4-2 Regal series cars. They were rib-sided and not yet modelled in Z.

For those who don't care about the west coast, the ATSF valley cars in two-tone grey were also the transcontinental sleeper for the B&O's Capital Limited until 1950 when they were replaced by the Budd 10-6 Pine series.

So much for morning trivia,

Mark

eltiti1 Fireman Posts: 62	AZL December 2019 New Items Dec 2, 2019 12:17:57 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by eltiti1 on Dec 2, 2019 12:17:57 GMT -5 I’m not an expert on ATSF Valley trains , so my question is : do ATSF Valley trains have an observation car or not ?

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AZL December 2019 New Items Dec 2, 2019 13:28:42 GMT -5 bnsantaray and cwrr like this

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Post by markm on Dec 2, 2019 13:28:42 GMT -5

eltiti,

Valley is the name of the series of sleeper cars. Pullman generally named each car type design such as Pine, Valley, Regal and Imperial. The first class ATSF trains were generally named Chief, such as Super Chief and San Francisco Chief.

The ATSF ran observation/lounge cars on many trains. However they preferred the rib-sided cars over the smooth-sided, as modelled in this release. Here's one such car:

www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3595783

Hope this helps,

Mark

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AZL December 2019 New Items Dec 2, 2019 17:17:30 GMT -5

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Post by bnsantaray on Dec 2, 2019 17:17:30 GMT -5

Funny, just notice that the baggage car is thee same roadnumber as in Micro-Trains 4 cars series 994-011-50

73628-1 ATSF Baggage RAILWAY EXPRESS AGENCY 3918 Lightweight Passenger Car

The same with

73128-2 ATSF Sleeper 6-6-4 SWEETWATER VALLEY Lightweight Passenger Car

73128-3 ATSF Sleeper 6-6-4 HIDDEN VALLEY Lightweight Passenger Car

Just a strange match ?

Last Edit: Dec 2, 2019 17:24:32 GMT -5 by bnsantaray

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AZL December 2019 New Items Dec 2, 2019 17:26:58 GMT -5

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Dec 2, 2019 13:28:42 GMT -5 markm said:

eltiti,

Valley is the name of the series of sleeper cars. Pullman generally named each car type design such as Pine, Valley, Regal and Imperial. The first class ATSF trains were generally named Chief, such as Super Chief and San Francisco Chief.

The ATSF ran observation/lounge cars on many trains. However they preferred the rib-sided cars over the smooth-sided, as modelled in this release. Here's one such car:

www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3595783

Hope this helps,

Mark

Thank you Mark for your quick response ,it is now much clear .
Eltiti1

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AZL December 2019 New Items Dec 2, 2019 17:52:45 GMT -5 bnsantaray likes this

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Dec 2, 2019 17:17:30 GMT -5 bnsantaray said:

Funny, just notice that the baggage car is thee same roadnumber as in Micro-Trains 4 cars series 994-011-50

73628-1 ATSF Baggage RAILWAY EXPRESS AGENCY 3918 Lightweight Passenger Car

The same with

73128-2 ATSF Sleeper 6-6-4 SWEETWATER VALLEY Lightweight Passenger Car

73128-3 ATSF Sleeper 6-6-4 HIDDEN VALLEY Lightweight Passenger Car

Just a strange match ?

From the posted images the 2nd sleeper from MTL is Surprise Valley, no apparent overlap there. The AZL models still have the skirting and the prototypically correct silver trucks. Checking my Centennial train images, by 1969 the skirting had been removed.

Last Edit: Dec 2, 2019 18:04:17 GMT -5 by markm

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AZL December 2019 New Items Dec 2, 2019 20:04:37 GMT -5

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Post by bnsantaray on Dec 2, 2019 20:04:37 GMT -5

Sorry my poor vision acted again so lucky for me now I have the the Taos and the Hidden valley to order

I know it is not exacly the same cars but since I have 2 MTL series, I will try to get other Valley Names so I could rename some cars

Just waiting for all the other cars

Ray

AZL December 2019 New Items

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