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Post by markm on Sept 10, 2019 16:34:26 GMT -5
I got my California Zephyr set today and have been inspecting the set. Great detail, but more on that later and elsewhere. I thought I discovered a mistake on the dining car (no road marking). However on future inspection, it seems this car doesn't belong to the CZ sets:  A strong hint of things to come? The diner for the Twin Cities Zephyr. An then there would be a need for a couple of E7's to pull it. Of course now I'm wondering about how to get the WP Silver Platter?  Mark |
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Post by cwrr on Sept 11, 2019 9:24:50 GMT -5
 What?! There was a Burlington car in your set?!
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Post by markm on Sept 11, 2019 10:43:02 GMT -5
Absolutely! Assuming this car isn't one of RobA's private stash that got mixed in, it suggests a bright future for Budd cars in Z. Aside from a Twin Cities Zephyr which the Silver Feast was assigned to, I could see sets for several other Zephyr trains such as the Texas Zephyr. Or for that matter the various Budd cars of the UP & SP. Is there an Armour Yellow 10-6 sleeper in our future? Or perhaps it's a contest where the first person who discovers, "what doesn't belong" wins.  SO what do I win?  Mark |
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Post by cwrr on Sept 11, 2019 14:16:29 GMT -5
Whoa, lucky!!!  |
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Post by Commodore on Sept 11, 2019 14:19:35 GMT -5
Which set?
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Post by markm on Sept 11, 2019 14:23:14 GMT -5
72100. The release announcement has it as WP 842 Silver Platter. |
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Post by DAZed on Sept 11, 2019 15:35:22 GMT -5
Assuming this car isn't one of RobA's private stash that got mixed in, it suggests a bright future for Budd cars in Z. Aside from a Twin Cities Zephyr which the Silver Feast was assigned to, I could see sets for several other Zephyr trains such as the Texas Zephyr. Or for that matter the various Budd cars of the UP & SP. Is there an Armour Yellow 10-6 sleeper in our future? If there was an associated E5A (and ....gasp.... B) I would buy a Texas Zephyr in a second. Might anyway, even with an E8A. But I think we're getting waaaayyyy ahead of ourselves. Only available in HO in brass, and never in N that I know of. The market in Z might be single digits. Still a nice thought though. I approve of this pipe dream. |
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Post by Commodore on Sept 11, 2019 16:14:01 GMT -5
72100. The release announcement has it as WP 842 Silver Platter. . Got an email from Anthony at ZSM. He went through all his sets and all are correct, as advertised. You Sir, got a treasure! |
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Post by markm on Sept 12, 2019 14:42:49 GMT -5
If there was an associated E5A (and ....gasp.... B) I would buy a Texas Zephyr in a second. Might anyway, even with an E8A. But I think we're getting waaaayyyy ahead of ourselves. Only available in HO in brass, and never in N that I know of. The market in Z might be single digits. Still a nice thought though. I approve of this pipe dream. Doug while I appreciate your interest in the E5s the market for it and it's pre-war siblings seems limited. You know an E5 would be a good project for the 3D printer people. You could use the existing E8 frame. My knowledge of the CB&Q is limited beyond the CZ, the Exposition Flyer and Denver, but it seems that in the later years they used E7s and F3s at least on the Denver Zephyr so a set seems plausible... 72100. The release announcement has it as WP 842 Silver Platter. . Got an email from Anthony at ZSM. He went through all his sets and all are correct, as advertised. You Sir, got a treasure! Glad to hear that this isn't endemic to the product. I assume AZL has been doing the same and if it were common, I'd have expected more comments here by now. While I may have a treasure for a while, it still leaves me with what to do with it. It isn't CZ and the CZ rarely ran with non-CZ equipment. About the only time I know of where a Burlington car might be on it was a 1955 special for the Shriners' convention: 23 cars and the only time the CZ ran in two sections. Such a train would have exceeded the CZ reserve capacity and I know it included a couple SP cars. Mark A bit of a postscript: after further research, it looks like the Silver Feast made an appearance once on the CZ in 12/1961, still though well after the AZL sets' 1952. |
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Post by DAZed on Sept 19, 2019 14:21:10 GMT -5
If there was an associated E5A (and ....gasp.... B) I would buy a Texas Zephyr in a second. Might anyway, even with an E8A. But I think we're getting waaaayyyy ahead of ourselves. Only available in HO in brass, and never in N that I know of. The market in Z might be single digits. Still a nice thought though. I approve of this pipe dream. Doug while I appreciate your interest in the E5s the market for it and it's pre-war siblings seems limited. You know an E5 would be a good project for the 3D printer people. You could use the existing E8 frame. My knowledge of the CB&Q is limited beyond the CZ, the Exposition Flyer and Denver, but it seems that in the later years they used E7s and F3s at least on the Denver Zephyr so a set seems plausible... That's why I stated "market in Z might be single digits" and "pipe dream". So yeah, I'd say if I could get an E8 and a set of passenger cars that was very representative of the Texas Zephyr that might be good enough for me. I mean, I very well might be able to get close now with some heavyweight cars "fluted" and some of the Calzephyr cars. Honestly I'm no expert either and this train is way out of my era...that's one reason I made all of the stipulations. I don't really want to drop a ton of money right now on something that is a fringe item for me, but if it came to pass I would buy one. Make sense? |
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Post by markm on Sept 19, 2019 22:28:11 GMT -5
As I recall both the City trains and Super Chief ran early E units. Although I haven't done the research, it seems that it might be possible to model E1-5 with the same shell, making the market bigger. I tend toward modeling a region (Nor Cal) more than an era or specific road. But since it appears that AZL has taken their Budd designs beyond the CZ, you might see something interesting in the future. For you and anyone else interest, here's a good source for all the stainless steel cars, that ran on the CB&Q/C&S: www.burlingtonroute.org/Qrailroad/roster/stainlessnames.phpI believe only the Silver named cars were Budd. |
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Post by Commodore on Sept 22, 2019 14:21:44 GMT -5
Assuming this car isn't one of RobA's private stash that got mixed in, it suggests a bright future for Budd cars in Z. Aside from a Twin Cities Zephyr which the Silver Feast was assigned to, I could see sets for several other Zephyr trains such as the Texas Zephyr. Or for that matter the various Budd cars of the UP & SP. Is there an Armour Yellow 10-6 sleeper in our future? If there was an associated E5A (and ....gasp.... B) I would buy a Texas Zephyr in a second. Might anyway, even with an E8A. But I think we're getting waaaayyyy ahead of ourselves. Only available in HO in brass, and never in N that I know of. The market in Z might be single digits. Still a nice thought though. I approve of this pipe dream. I've heard someone is working on this. The F40PH project required something between the AZL chassis of a GP30 and 38-2.
The entire E series fits AZL's E8-E-9 series running gear. |
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Post by markm on Oct 6, 2019 21:29:04 GMT -5
A postscript: once again RobK and AZL have made everything right and I have my WP Silver Feast. Thanks.
But I'm still left wondering....
Mark
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Post by Curn on Oct 9, 2019 0:48:00 GMT -5
So did you return the mystery car, or did you get to keep the rare item? No explanation?
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Post by markm on Oct 9, 2019 0:58:47 GMT -5
It was a swap. Period. The car didn't really fit my modeling philosophy. The time frame that the diner actually appeared on the CZ would have also required a CZ 6-5 sleeper, not currently available. I did give some thought to putting the set up on EBay: "One of a kind CZ set!" But I figured if I did RobA would have just released it as part of the mid-month release. Mark |
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What?! There was a Burlington car in your set?!
