Post by markm on May 26, 2019 1:48:50 GMT -5
I've finished looking at the history of the AZL diners. Here's a little information about them that may come in handy if you are trying to model a specific train or era.
HW Cars
SP10003 - 36 seat diner. Class 77-D-6. Build in 1927 for the Central Pacific as the second CP10003 in Olive Green. To SP 10003 in 1936. Modernized in 1939. Retired in 1957 to SPMW4194. This was the first class of diner having the clerestory roof. [vol4]
SP10138 - 36 seat diner .Class 77-D-9. Built in 1929 in Olive Green. Part of a lot of diners which were the first cars to receive air conditioning (1932), Reduced to 32 seats in 1934, Restored to 36 seats in 1937. Retired 1954, In 1956 sold to NWP, becoming NWPMW 278. [vol4]
SP10148 - 36 seat diner .Class 77-D-9 Built in 1929 as CP10148 in Olive Green, To SP10148 in 1934. Part of a lot of diners which were the first cars to receive air conditioning (1932), Reduced to 32 seats in 1933, Restored to 36 seats in 1937. To Daylight in 1946 and ran on the San Joaquin Daylight. Retired 1954, In 1956 sold to NWP, becoming NWPMW 280. [vol4]
LW Cars
SP10204 - 48 seat Diner. Class 83-D-1, Built in 1949 for the San Francisco Overland in Two-tone Grey and SP letter board. Maintained in TTG until 1963 making it the last in its class. Painted Silver/Red until retired in 1971. In July 1968 reduced to 24 seat diner and 11 seat lounge. In May 1969 the car was part of the Los Angeles-Ogden Golden Spike Centennial Special. Leased to Amtrak 1971, to AMTK 8500 in 1974 retired and sold 1977 [Trainline] [vol4]
SP10209 - 48 seat Diner. Class 83-D-1, Built in 1949 for the City of San Francisco in Armour Yellow and SP letter board. Derailed in Evanston WY 11/1951. Was running on the San Joaquin Daylight, still in yellow by 1959. By 1965 repainted in silver/red and placed in general service including the SJ Daylight and Shasta Daylight. Leased to Amtrak 1971. Retired. [vol4]
And I must not forget the UP:
HW cars 315 & 324 ran on the Overland route. In 1940/41 they were upgraded and renumbered 3615 & 3624 respectively. 3615 was painted and lettered for the Overland and was Stream-styled in 1951. Retired in 1966 & 1957 respectively.
LW cars 4809 and 4811 were built for the Overland route. 4811 was assigned to the City of San Francisco in 1955.
So far I don't believe any other AZL diners ran on the SP.
A couple of thoughts...
While the AZL lightweight diner design seems to fit the UP diners well, there are differences between the SP prototype and model. Purist might be disappointed. What I find interesting is that the design seems to be almost an exact match for the class 83-DL-1 coffee shop/lounge cars (early 10400 series):
rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3227147
Maybe in the next run, AZL could consider printing up a few of these.
I mentioned UP's Stream-style. While the upgrade covered a number of items, the most visible was changing the Pullman style roof to one that matched the LW cars:
For those who have 3d printers, it just might be of value to have such a roof to replace the OEM piece.
Finally, if I might have erred, please let me know.
Enjoy,
Mark
HW Cars
SP10003 - 36 seat diner. Class 77-D-6. Build in 1927 for the Central Pacific as the second CP10003 in Olive Green. To SP 10003 in 1936. Modernized in 1939. Retired in 1957 to SPMW4194. This was the first class of diner having the clerestory roof. [vol4]
SP10138 - 36 seat diner .Class 77-D-9. Built in 1929 in Olive Green. Part of a lot of diners which were the first cars to receive air conditioning (1932), Reduced to 32 seats in 1934, Restored to 36 seats in 1937. Retired 1954, In 1956 sold to NWP, becoming NWPMW 278. [vol4]
SP10148 - 36 seat diner .Class 77-D-9 Built in 1929 as CP10148 in Olive Green, To SP10148 in 1934. Part of a lot of diners which were the first cars to receive air conditioning (1932), Reduced to 32 seats in 1933, Restored to 36 seats in 1937. To Daylight in 1946 and ran on the San Joaquin Daylight. Retired 1954, In 1956 sold to NWP, becoming NWPMW 280. [vol4]
LW Cars
SP10204 - 48 seat Diner. Class 83-D-1, Built in 1949 for the San Francisco Overland in Two-tone Grey and SP letter board. Maintained in TTG until 1963 making it the last in its class. Painted Silver/Red until retired in 1971. In July 1968 reduced to 24 seat diner and 11 seat lounge. In May 1969 the car was part of the Los Angeles-Ogden Golden Spike Centennial Special. Leased to Amtrak 1971, to AMTK 8500 in 1974 retired and sold 1977 [Trainline] [vol4]
SP10209 - 48 seat Diner. Class 83-D-1, Built in 1949 for the City of San Francisco in Armour Yellow and SP letter board. Derailed in Evanston WY 11/1951. Was running on the San Joaquin Daylight, still in yellow by 1959. By 1965 repainted in silver/red and placed in general service including the SJ Daylight and Shasta Daylight. Leased to Amtrak 1971. Retired. [vol4]
And I must not forget the UP:
HW cars 315 & 324 ran on the Overland route. In 1940/41 they were upgraded and renumbered 3615 & 3624 respectively. 3615 was painted and lettered for the Overland and was Stream-styled in 1951. Retired in 1966 & 1957 respectively.
LW cars 4809 and 4811 were built for the Overland route. 4811 was assigned to the City of San Francisco in 1955.
So far I don't believe any other AZL diners ran on the SP.
A couple of thoughts...
While the AZL lightweight diner design seems to fit the UP diners well, there are differences between the SP prototype and model. Purist might be disappointed. What I find interesting is that the design seems to be almost an exact match for the class 83-DL-1 coffee shop/lounge cars (early 10400 series):
rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3227147
Maybe in the next run, AZL could consider printing up a few of these.
I mentioned UP's Stream-style. While the upgrade covered a number of items, the most visible was changing the Pullman style roof to one that matched the LW cars:
For those who have 3d printers, it just might be of value to have such a roof to replace the OEM piece.
Finally, if I might have erred, please let me know.
Enjoy,
Mark
