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Post by ciccino on Apr 15, 2019 11:07:27 GMT -5
Hello.
I noticed that the much beloved and ever popular Hiawatha trains are very difficult to get in any scale (HO, N) and material (plastic, brass etc). Unfortunately, Fox Valley was on the point of releasing some great stuff, but got bogged in the Affa crisis.
A few months ago I was going to purchase a brass Hiawatha F7 4-6-4, but it came and went in a few minutes :-(
How is it this line is so scarcely produced, given its popularity?
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Post by cwrr on Apr 15, 2019 12:15:52 GMT -5
The Milwaukee Road's rolling stock like passenger cars and freight cars were all built in they're own shops, so they are prototypical to one railroad and manufacturers don't like to make railroad specific stuff, hard to sell except for us fans and modelers of that road. This is where you get to know modelers that are very good at scratchbuilding! I have some Milwaukee Road specific "Ribside" boxcars and passenger equipment, (even a station AND a substation, I model the Lines West!!), so try to find someone on here or other forums who can make prototype equipment in Z. I'm still waiting on those AZL Milw GP30's w/AAR trucks......
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Post by markm on Apr 15, 2019 15:56:31 GMT -5
I tried to find out about Milwaukee Road sleepers for modeling the late 1950s Overland. They seem to have gotten rid of the C&NW sleepers very quickly (to SP) and the only PS cars I could find were some Pacific series 10-6 sleepers they bought from UP.
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Post by Commodore on Apr 17, 2019 17:09:31 GMT -5
I had a friend that tried to redo a Milwaukee sleeper obs in the 1980's. The trucks had to be replaced before Amtrak would even consider letting it run. He bought a Pullman car for it's trucks. Long story short, the Pullman was J. Pinkney Henderson. Ends up this was also the first all-stainless steel Pullman car. The Milwaukee road car was abandoned ...and the Pullman was converted to a sleeper lounge.
Always felt so sorry for Bob! He really dumped a pile into the Milwaukee shop-built mess.
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Post by cwrr on Apr 18, 2019 0:23:36 GMT -5
Dang, was the Milw car donated to a museum or somewhere? Sounds like he has a nice Pullman now, atleast.
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Post by Commodore on Apr 20, 2019 19:45:05 GMT -5
Yes, it was cool. I remember the round windows and that everything had to be custom built. There was no standard parts. ...Don't remember the cars disposal. I'm sure that at least one of these car types remain. In those days nobody in railroads cared. My first car derailed in a Morton Thiokol consist. It was scrapped on the spot ...to clear the Alabama mainline. The 37th president had used it in a campaign train but that didn't matter. Clearing the line mattered more.
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Post by cwrr on Apr 21, 2019 10:00:16 GMT -5
Dang, that's sad. Sorry to hear that.
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