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Post by Commodore on Aug 18, 2018 17:57:07 GMT -5
OK, so t-track modules are sweeping the nation. A 15 mile long module was recently completed in N-scale. T-Track Standards for Z-scale already exists (and precut module kits are available starting at $25.00.) I'm considering a new group and think Z would grow faster and way more people could participate ...if groups started using the new standard. They're just so much easier to transport!!! What do you think?
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Post by DAZed on Aug 19, 2018 1:49:23 GMT -5
My thoughts... 1. I don't currently have either modular standard. But, I certainly don't want modules to go away either! So I can't really reply to the poll. 2. I like the concept of T-Trak. Liked it when I was in N, and have investigated it in Z. 3. I also like the Z-Bend concept as well. One local modeler has at least a couple of modules I think, and a small group of us have talked about expanding on his setup and building a few Z-Bend modules. 4. I have also developed my own set of modular standards that sort of adopt some aspects of both. While it is true that I wouldn't be able to easily match up with the others, in my experience the chances of that happening are slim. (and, there is nothing preventing me from creating modules for two standards, or all three!) I have yet to build one of my custom-standard modules, since about the time I was getting ready to start was when the Z-Bend-er came into the picture. Plus, I'm currently working on a stand-alone "roundy roundy" layout and didn't wish to redirect any more time away from that either. So it's wait and see for now, but I expect to be in the modular game soon, at some level.
I will add that one of my real concerns with displaying modules or even my roundy roundy layout is the security of the trains. I'm very fearful of kids (or adults acting like kids) damaging the rolling stock. So I guess the viewing height is somewhat a consideration, although I'm planning on having plexiglass shields in place to ease my fears. Z stuff can be expensive and also hard to find replacements for some items. So it makes me nervous.
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Post by Commodore on Aug 19, 2018 9:00:52 GMT -5
Thanks, your voice is always welcomed. We are in very early stage talks with a "tourist attraction" for consideration as their very first Christmas train. They've nixed plexiglass partitions but are considering ropes to hold people back from the display. Actually the 3 foot rule helps me, here. Any other thoughts?
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Post by rvn2001 on Aug 19, 2018 9:44:03 GMT -5
I won't be voting either because there isn't a choice for me. I have both Z-Bend Track modules and T-Rail-Z modules(my own standards using the largest radii Rokuhan track). We display our Z-Bend Track modules at whatever height we need to. We normally put our modules on top of tables so we do both. We had our modules on legs at table-top height at the 2018 NTS. They don't allow modules to use tables ...... unless they're table-top modules. We don't use any barriers. I've found them to be more of a problem. At table-top height kids and people in wheelchairs and scooters can see the trains easily. We've received many thank yous from the above-mentioned groups.
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Post by DAZed on Aug 19, 2018 10:43:51 GMT -5
At table-top height kids and people in wheelchairs and scooters can see the trains easily. We've received many thank yous from the above-mentioned groups. Thom, that is a very very good point. My custom module spec is tabletop, so--while I did not consider this--it is an added benefit. I definitely want to be inclusive...even--and especially--kids. I guess I just need to get over my phobia and chalk up losing $200 every show and move on. If I don't have incidents, then I'm $200 ahead.
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Post by Admin on Aug 19, 2018 14:53:59 GMT -5
Not to be a fence-sitter, but I really like both. I personally like to build small and then make myself a little nutty on details. On the other hand, seeing larger modular layouts in Z can be an amazing site. I think there's room for both approaches. I kind of wish there was a company (or companies) that did produce and sell very standardized modular supplies in a clear and easy to order fashion.
A side note on T-Track... I don't know if it would interfere with operations, but would like to see small neodymium magnets in the frames of the smaller modules to make assembly / arrangement even easier.
John Cubbin
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Post by bnsantaray on Aug 19, 2018 19:54:12 GMT -5
I dont use module, but we need to have only one (1) to connet with others
Ray
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Post by rvn2001 on Aug 20, 2018 5:38:12 GMT -5
The MidweZt HaulerZ have connected both Z-Bend Track standard and Z-Mod standard modules to form a large layout. Different module standards allow for different interpretations and talents.
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Post by pcbpoppy on Sept 2, 2018 18:37:26 GMT -5
Hi, I admit that I'm new to Z scale after forgoing my adventures in T-TRAK-N. T-TRAK-Z (correct "branding") had never really taken off because of outdated standards. The new standards call for use of Rokuhan track. The reason being the wider variety of pieces. Things like corner modules can take advantage of Rokuhan's geometry and be built from the standard 195/220 curves found in most starter sets to 220/245 and 245/270 curves. This gives greater options and even more can be accomplished. Links to standards: ttrak.wikidot.com/t-trak-standards and ttrak.wikidot.com/t-trak-z. I am a founding member of the T-TRAK-Z Facebook Group, www.facebook.com/groups/ttrakz/?ref=bookmarks. We are dedicated to promote T-TRAK-Z and Z scale in general. We will have a small layout in Pensacola in December and plan on several modules at the NTS in Salt Lake City next year.
Yes I voted for T-TRAK.
P.S. I think there is room for all of us and gives people more options to get started with Z Scale. The key is to promote Z.
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Post by ell on Oct 19, 2018 14:49:19 GMT -5
At table-top height kids and people in wheelchairs and scooters can see the trains easily. We've received many thank yous from the above-mentioned groups. Thom, that is a very very good point. My custom module spec is tabletop, so--while I did not consider this--it is an added benefit. I definitely want to be inclusive...even--and especially--kids. I guess I just need to get over my phobia and chalk up losing $200 every show and move on. If I don't have incidents, then I'm $200 ahead. I have exhibited a 2 ft x 4 ft stand-alone layout at a couple shows a year since the early 1990s. Always on a tabletop with the back against a wall. I have a hinged plexiglass sheet that is 16 inches high. It protects the front and both sides, and stands on its own since it's basically u-shaped.. That size and the plexiglass hinges I used was a bit expensive, but it has served me well over the years. I have had very few problems over the years, even when I left the layout for periods of time. Kids do tend to bump it when they point, so I keep it about an inch from the front of the layout. Otherwise the vibration from a bump transmits to the layout and can cause a whole train to fall over.
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Post by BAZman on Oct 19, 2018 15:59:37 GMT -5
Us BAZ BoyZ (San Francisco Bay Area Z scale) have 21 Z-Bend Track between the 3 of us. We fill up a 25x35 area shows but can fit in a 15x25 or so space.
ZoCal Z (Southern California) has about 50+ Z-Bend Track modules. Together, we can fill 50x100'
At next year's National Train Show, we certainly will go for it.
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Post by Commodore on Mar 14, 2019 9:10:11 GMT -5
Hi, I admit that I'm new to Z scale after forgoing my adventures in T-TRAK-N. T-TRAK-Z (correct "branding") had never really taken off because of outdated standards. The new standards call for use of Rokuhan track. The reason being the wider variety of pieces. Things like corner modules can take advantage of Rokuhan's geometry and be built from the standard 195/220 curves found in most starter sets to 220/245 and 245/270 curves. This gives greater options and even more can be accomplished. Links to standards: ttrak.wikidot.com/t-trak-standards and ttrak.wikidot.com/t-trak-z. I am a founding member of the T-TRAK-Z Facebook Group, www.facebook.com/groups/ttrakz/?ref=bookmarks. We are dedicated to promote T-TRAK-Z and Z scale in general. We will have a small layout in Pensacola in December and plan on several modules at the NTS in Salt Lake City next year.
Yes I voted for T-TRAK.
P.S. I think there is room for all of us and gives people more options to get started with Z Scale. The key is to promote Z.
any update?
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Post by pcbpoppy on Mar 14, 2019 17:07:56 GMT -5
Hi, I admit that I'm new to Z scale after forgoing my adventures in T-TRAK-N. T-TRAK-Z (correct "branding") had never really taken off because of outdated standards. The new standards call for use of Rokuhan track. The reason being the wider variety of pieces. Things like corner modules can take advantage of Rokuhan's geometry and be built from the standard 195/220 curves found in most starter sets to 220/245 and 245/270 curves. This gives greater options and even more can be accomplished. Links to standards: ttrak.wikidot.com/t-trak-standards and ttrak.wikidot.com/t-trak-z. I am a founding member of the T-TRAK-Z Facebook Group, www.facebook.com/groups/ttrakz/?ref=bookmarks. We are dedicated to promote T-TRAK-Z and Z scale in general. We will have a small layout in Pensacola in December and plan on several modules at the NTS in Salt Lake City next year.
Yes I voted for T-TRAK.
P.S. I think there is room for all of us and gives people more options to get started with Z Scale. The key is to promote Z.
any update? Commodore, we have a very active Facebook group and Rob Kluz is planning some future articles on T-TRAK-Z modules in the ZTrack Magazine. I have a picture attached that shows what a setup was at the SWARM Train Show in Mobile on March 9th. Also the proposed layout that will be presented at the BBMRA show in Tallahassee in June. We will have a total of 32 modules at that show. Due to some logistical issues we won't be attending Salt Lake City but are shooting for St. Louis in 2020. Attachments:
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Post by Commodore on Mar 14, 2019 17:25:46 GMT -5
Thanks Charles. That is quite an update. Thank you. Very impressive!
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Post by pcbpoppy on Mar 14, 2019 18:28:09 GMT -5
Thanks Charles. That is quite an update. Thank you. Very impressive! Thanks.
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