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Post by Rob Albritton on Apr 21, 2013 12:22:08 GMT -5
Some more information on the new cars (all information from Branchline trains)
Pullman 6-3 Sleeper: The 6 compartment - 3 drawing room cars were an unusual all-room design that found favor on many long distance trains, particularly between New York and Florida. The 6-3’s had an unusual window arrangement with 12 small, single windows along one side and numerous tightly packed paired windows on the other. Many of these cars were named after famous composers and authors, although we have modeled the "Glen" series for our Z scale model.
Pullman 8-1-2 Sleeper: The 8 section - 1 drawing room - 2 compartment sleeper was one of Pullman's most popular designs. In 1937 there were 243 cars built to plans 3979a alone. Nearly half of these cars were used in Pullman pool service nation wide, the rest were assigned to, and painted for, various railroads nationwide. These models feature correct air-conditioning parts and full lettering including car names. For our Z scale models we have used the "Cent" series of cars.
Pullman Paired Window Coach: The coach was the backbone of the American passenger car fleet. These cars were used on long and short haul trains, through trains and commuter runs alike. The prototype for our model was built by Pullman, ACF, Standard Steel and others for many railroads coast to coast, and they served many years in a wide variety of services.
All of these cars are first for Z scale.
Enjoy! -Rob(A) AZL
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Post by markm on Apr 21, 2013 13:55:07 GMT -5
Rob, To help out on order quanitities, why not use the poll button at the bottom of the page with something like: Would you buy a WP paired window coach in Pullman Green Would you buy 2? 3?
Mark
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Post by trainboy4 on Apr 24, 2013 9:21:39 GMT -5
Are the orignal 4 body styles going to be rerun soon?
Dang it I missed out on the UP.
I got the green pullmans.
I also might of liked the PRR.
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Post by Rob Albritton on Apr 24, 2013 10:58:12 GMT -5
Rob, To help out on order quanitities, why not use the poll button at the bottom of the page with something like: Would you buy a WP paired window coach in Pullman Green Would you buy 2? 3? Mark Good idea on poll - we will discuss internally.
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Post by Rob Albritton on Apr 24, 2013 11:00:32 GMT -5
Are the orignal 4 body styles going to be rerun soon? Dang it I missed out on the UP. I got the green pullmans. I also might of liked the PRR. Well, I've got good news! we will have UP and PRR on the next set of body styles! (Due out soon) I'm starting to work on the next production run now, so thanks for the feedback.
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Post by boxcarwilly on Apr 24, 2013 12:20:19 GMT -5
Rob. These new additions, will they be available for liveries already produced?
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Post by boxcarwilly on Apr 25, 2013 11:24:10 GMT -5
Are we gonna see any sleeper cars with just the upper and lower berths. Regular sized windows below and smaller windows in the upper berth. The interior of these cars are just berths on both sides with curtains that close off each one. There was usually a lavatory/change room at both ends and in some cases a closet or cabinet to put luggage like and overnight bag or something of that nature in since there was generally no room in the upper berths for such things. Any change we will see some of these?
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Post by Rob Albritton on Apr 25, 2013 13:07:28 GMT -5
Are we gonna see any sleeper cars with just the upper and lower berths. Regular sized windows below and smaller windows in the upper berth. The interior of these cars are just berths on both sides with curtains that close off each one. There was usually a lavatory/change room at both ends and in some cases a closet or cabinet to put luggage like and overnight bag or something of that nature in since there was generally no room in the upper berths for such things. Any change we will see some of these? I'm not exactly sure what you mean. To the best of my knowledge, Pullman never installed the roomette concept in any of the Heavyweight designs. (The Roomette had staggered high / low windows) Some lightweight cars also had little windows for the upper berth in compartments, but not the Heavyweights. All of our cars are Heavyweights - in use from the turn of the century to the 1960s (and later as business cars) and into the 1990s as baggage / MoW cars. All of our Heavyweight sleepers have frosted windows at each end indicating the location of the washrooms - so yes - they are here! see www.northeast.railfan.net/classic/CARdwgs4.html for more info. Best, -Rob(A) AZL
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Post by boxcarwilly on Apr 26, 2013 9:18:23 GMT -5
I really couldn't say if the sleepers I'm referring to were heavyweights or lightweights or even middleweights. All I know is I remember seeing these on passenger trains coming through my town when I was a boy. Via Rail in Canada still has a few of these only the entire car is not upper/lower births. There are compartments or roomettes as you call them combined in these cars as well. I was just curious.
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Post by Rob Albritton on Apr 26, 2013 10:53:00 GMT -5
I really couldn't say if the sleepers I'm referring to were heavyweights or lightweights or even middleweights. All I know is I remember seeing these on passenger trains coming through my town when I was a boy. Via Rail in Canada still has a few of these only the entire car is not upper/lower births. There are compartments or roomettes as you call them combined in these cars as well. I was just curious. Gotcha. Good chances that those were all lightweight cars - made after WWII. Were you thinking of this: or this: or this: ;D ;D ;D Best, -Rob
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Post by boxcarwilly on Apr 28, 2013 9:22:13 GMT -5
Hi Rob.
It could very well be that the cars I have been referring to are lightweights. I confess I don't know the difference except that some coaches have 6 wheel trucks and some 4. The top picture is close to those I've seen here only the center grouping of windows was situated at one end of the car and the bottom windows would be bigger and the upper windows less so. Not at all like the second picture. I'll have to see if I can find a pic or two of those I refer too. I've seen pictures of the inside of the sleepers on old movies but they just show the aisle with the berths on both sides covered with curtains. You can't actually see into any of the berths. And you can't tell if there are compartments or lavatories at the ends of the cars. The third picture may be closer to what I've seen but this looks like a compartment and not berths opening onto a central aisle. This looks like Cary Grant. Who's the girl?
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Post by boxcarwilly on Apr 28, 2013 9:51:10 GMT -5
Rob. I found a few pics of the sleeping cars I have been referring to but I don't know how to bring them to this message box. Oh well.
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Post by markm on Apr 28, 2013 11:59:05 GMT -5
Willy, The different wheel count is about the only obvious outward clue. The difference in construction materials allowed lightweights flexibility in features such as window size & placement. You should be able to upload your images to the site using the attachment box on the full reply page. I'm interested in seeing what you have.
Mark
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Post by gnfan on Apr 28, 2013 20:59:36 GMT -5
RobA, you're a man after my own heart if you come up with a sleeper with Roger Thornhill and Eve Kendall in a compartment!
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Post by boxcarwilly on Apr 29, 2013 10:56:34 GMT -5
You should be able to upload your images to the site using the attachment box on the full reply page. I'm interested in seeing what you have.
Sorry Mark, but I this webpage won't let me post the pics. It says it is copyrighted material. There's no way I can see to post the pics I found.
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