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Post by catt on Jan 16, 2013 8:12:09 GMT -5
HEY AZL (Rob Allbritton),
May I offer a loco suggestion? Since you already have the correct chassis with the GP38-2 how about expanding the lower cost loco line with GP40-2s and GP50s?
There are a lot of railroads that have these locos.CSX and NS plus UP just to name three have GP40-2s,CNW had 50s Mopac had 50s .KCS has both.
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Post by markm on Jan 16, 2013 9:49:14 GMT -5
Remember that the GP38-2 was low cost because they already had the shell tooling from Rogue River. I suspect they wouldn't be able to do much better than the GP30 price. Beyond that, I'd support the project so long as all the decoration isn't for short lines like CNW and KCS.
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Post by catt on Jan 16, 2013 21:51:23 GMT -5
They already have the chassis,and,the trucks,and the railings so that is a significant savings right there. The only tooling cost would be for the body shell which would be a whole lot less than a totally new loco.
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Post by domi on Jan 22, 2013 3:08:01 GMT -5
I understand the request, but on the opposite kitbashing a GP38 into a GP40 or 50 shouldn't be an issue for an average modeller. The big part beeing adding a 3rd fan overhead aft..
Dom
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Post by catt on Jan 22, 2013 7:00:52 GMT -5
Actually it goes beyond that as the 38 is not turbo charged so the exhaust is different as are the fans and radiator grilles.
For the fans 36" N scale fans would work nicely and using the grilles froma MTL SD40-2 would get you the right grilles for a 40-2 but not the 50 .In either case the dynamic brakes would be wrong.
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Post by Rob Albritton on Jan 22, 2013 12:38:54 GMT -5
They already have the chassis,and,the trucks,and the railings so that is a significant savings right there. The only tooling cost would be for the body shell which would be a whole lot less than a totally new loco. Actually, the body shell is a HUGE percentage of the tooling cost for a new locomotive. |
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Post by catt on Jan 23, 2013 15:02:10 GMT -5
I know it is Bob,but the cost of the loco shell would be offset by all the parts you do not NEED tooling for.
Chassis
Trucks
Railings
Windows
Couplers
Motor/Drive train
Between the CSX railroads,Conrail,NS,UP,BNSF,BN,SF,and all of the lessor roads that owned these locos AZL would not run out of paint schemes for a couple of years. ;D
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Post by Curn on Jan 23, 2013 23:38:38 GMT -5
WP had GP-40s.
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Post by markm on Jan 24, 2013 14:52:41 GMT -5
They even had a GP40 in Armour Yellow!
BTW: for reference to some of the comments here, I was paying $40-$60K for injection molds 20 years ago, and not nearly as complex as a GP.
Mark
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Post by modelwarships on Mar 5, 2013 12:46:12 GMT -5
Hopefully the mold is designed with inserts that can be changed out for those differences.
I am new to Z-scale but am loving my BN GP-38's. I would love to see some GP-50's to work with them.
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Post by ZFRANK on Apr 26, 2013 16:41:17 GMT -5
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Post by catt on Apr 28, 2013 7:07:43 GMT -5
Looks good Frank.I am thinking about using parts removed from a MTL SD40-2 to create a GP40-2 then pulling a mold and casting a few shells.
I get my GP40-2s that way and AZL sells more GP38-2s ;D
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Post by ZFRANK on Sept 14, 2013 7:58:55 GMT -5
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