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Post by gyroflyer on Nov 24, 2014 17:32:58 GMT -5
Is it even worth using the static grass method for Z scale? Since Z is so tiny, would the stand up grass be too big?
Mark
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Post by ztrack on Nov 24, 2014 20:17:22 GMT -5
Mark I use it all of the time... and love it!!! It is definitely worth it. Here is a photo of static grass mixed in with Woodland Scenics course turf on the mountain.  Rob |
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Post by gyroflyer on Nov 24, 2014 23:43:34 GMT -5
Question answered. Thank you Rob. I've never used it but thought it might be too tall or something for Z. Looks very nice Rob.
Mark
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Post by zscalehobo on Nov 25, 2014 19:17:49 GMT -5
Is it even worth using the static grass method for Z scale? Since Z is so tiny, would the stand up grass be too big? Mark Mark: Noch makes 2.5mm long grass which is fine for z ... it's what they use on all their pre-forms and I think it is a very professional looking finish. I have the 50210 (spring meadow) grass in stock ... here's what it looks like: LINK to 50210 on Noch's website
I am also bringing in Noch's static applicator (although I've read you can make your own quite easily) for the first time. I have two Grasmaster 2.0 (#60135) units en route from Germany. Can't wait to try it out on my own layout. Rob: That layout looks great! |
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Post by ztrack on Nov 25, 2014 20:21:24 GMT -5
Thanks Frank! I have been using the 2mm - 4mm long static grass. I use a Grassinator made by John Cubbin of Raildig. It is more powerful than the Noch version. I love it! I know John is planning on offering these as well. He use to have an particle on the site on how to make your own, but I don't see it currently. Here is the link: www.raildig.comRob |
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Post by ProgressRail on Nov 26, 2014 7:58:33 GMT -5
It's worth it; looks much better than just a bunch of sprinkled foam all over with prefabricated scenery. I recommend painting on a thin base layer of fine sifted dirt, almost to a powder consistency, mixed with glue, let it dry for a few hours then, mist glue/water mix and add static grass. Just get Woodland Scenics Static Flock Grass [#FL631 through FL635]; in my opinion the Noch stuff looks too generic.  
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Post by gyroflyer on Nov 26, 2014 10:09:56 GMT -5
Wow, very impressive. Now all I need are the tools to do this and I'm good to go. Thanks for all of the information and replies.
Mark
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Post by domi on Nov 26, 2014 15:26:54 GMT -5
Interresting comments. My goal, on my side, is putting static grass between rails in order to build a derelict branchline that in the prototype sits in Mexico. Don't know whether it has already been done in Z. I know for sure in HO, but I've no information for other scales.
However I know I'll have to be very cautious, especially for locomotives' gearings. I consider glueing a very thin styrene plate around these on trucks' underneath....
Dom
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Post by gyroflyer on Nov 26, 2014 16:03:19 GMT -5
Good point Dom.
Mark
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Post by tjdreams on Nov 26, 2014 17:06:21 GMT -5
As for the applicator do a search on YouTube for "DIY Static Grass Applicator" Theirs dozens of videos on how to build your own.
I have heard both good and bad reports on how well they work, but for just a couple dollars it might be worth a try.
If you build one BECAREFUL These can Zap you pretty good
David
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Post by patrice on Nov 26, 2014 20:50:25 GMT -5
Very interesting topic. I always left the static grass aside because I was sure it would look inapropriate in Z.
Dieselfuelx, you are telling us that you recommend Woodland Scenics. I don't see anywhere on the net the lenght of that grass. Noch has different lenght to choose from but Woodland Scenics has only one type.
How long are they ? It seems right when I look at your picture but I am surprised that the only size they have fits for Z.
Thank you
Patrice
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Post by ProgressRail on Nov 27, 2014 7:01:55 GMT -5
Yah, I would recommend it...work's for my purposes. The fiber sizes are 1/16in - 1/8in (1mm - 3mm)...so Woodland Scenics Static Flock is not just one type/height. I use a mixture/blend of the different colors. I think in my diorama pictures I used a mix of light green and medium green with a bit of burnt grass; they also have harvest gold and wild honey. Here is a another picture to reference the dirt base layer and grass height.
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Post by shamoo737 on Nov 27, 2014 12:29:12 GMT -5
Interresting comments. My goal, on my side, is putting static grass between rails in order to build a derelict branchline that in the prototype sits in Mexico. Don't know whether it has already been done in Z. I know for sure in HO, but I've no information for other scales. However I know I'll have to be very cautious, especially for locomotives' gearings. I consider glueing a very thin styrene plate around these on trucks' underneath.... Dom It better be a very thin strip. There's not much clearance between the truck and the guard rails. |
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Post by markm on Nov 27, 2014 13:27:30 GMT -5
Interresting comments. My goal, on my side, is putting static grass between rails in order to build a derelict branchline that in the prototype sits in Mexico. Don't know whether it has already been done in Z. I know for sure in HO, but I've no information for other scales. However I know I'll have to be very cautious, especially for locomotives' gearings. I consider glueing a very thin styrene plate around these on trucks' underneath.... Dom Dom, Here's a thought for you. What about a retractable roadbed underneath the track? Something like a 7-10mm wide strip of styrene. It would lower 2-3mm when rolling stock passed over and would snap back up as roadbed once the train passed. Plant the grass on this strip. I think I'd try cutting up some roadbed sectional track to get a gravel texture without the mechanical problems that glue-on ballast could create. Mark |
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Post by domi on Nov 29, 2014 4:18:08 GMT -5
Hi Mark. Interresting thoughts. But according to you, what should command the system's retractation where the train is?
Dom
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