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Post by oldgrog on Feb 12, 2024 12:17:04 GMT -5
Fellow modellers, can you help please ? I have a microtrains F7B in Raymond Loewy two-tone green passenger livery. I understand the NP converted their F units to and from freight service, not always quickly being repainted. I have seen F7B units with the bold white NORTHERN PACIFIC lettering painted over with the dark green, and I wish to duplicate this. I am in Britain, and have a source of Tru-Color brand paint. My questions :- 1) They make 2 types, 057 which may be a bit shiny, and 887 which is described as ‘flat’. Which should I use ? 2) They also make a thinner (015), and I am wondering whether I should use that as well. The effect I am after is that the lettering is covered, but not completely obscured, as I have seen in photographs. (This may well be early after the BN amalgamation, and does not appear to have been applied with much skill or care) I will be using brush, as I don’t have a spray-gun. ( I will not be spoiling my A-B-A set of AZL F7’s in this way - they are for North Coast Ltd / Mainstreeter use only!) Any hints, tips, suggestions gratefully received.
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Scott
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Post by Scott on Feb 12, 2024 13:33:18 GMT -5
Get an airbrush.
Super-thin application of paint turns plastic into metal.
Brush painting rolling stock is for weathering.
Hints, tips, and suggestions concluded.
Cheers.
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Post by ednadolski on Feb 12, 2024 21:20:21 GMT -5
The effect I am after is that the lettering is covered, but not completely obscured, as I have seen in photographs. One thing that works for me is to wet-sand the factory lettering with some fine (1500-2000 grit) automotive sandpaper on the end of a small stick (some sort of wedge-shaped tip works best). Work gently until the paint layering just starts to wear through, and clean the sandpaper often by dipping the tip into a small cup of water. Then, I tape/mask off the area where the patch is to go, and spray paint over the worn lettering. You can use a rattle can, but make very light, quick passes so that you don't put on too much paint (practice on some scrap beforehand). Light colors are more transparent. Another variation is to apply the paint patch first, and then sand thru the patch after it dries, to expose the lettering underneath. It's possible to do both techniques on the same model.
I've also heard tell some folks use a similar technique with decals, tho you probably should clear coat it before and after.
With some models, applying Micro-Sol or Walthers Solvaset over the lettering and letting it stand for a bit can help reduce the hold of the factory lettering. Some or all of the lettering can then be removed by lifting it off with the sticky side of some scotch tape.
Apologies for linking to such a large scale (Proto:48) model here, but this is the only pic I have to illustrate the effect. I'm quite sure that it should scale down to Z, and expect to try it myself at some point.
HTH,
Ed
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Post by oldgrog on Feb 13, 2024 5:18:17 GMT -5
Many thanks, Ed. I now have the confidence to try your techniques.
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Post by BAZman on Feb 21, 2024 2:30:50 GMT -5
Nail 'Files' from the Cosmetic section (or more choices from a Beauty Supply store. 1000 grit up to 10,000 grit.
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rray
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Post by rray on Feb 23, 2024 20:57:05 GMT -5
Use the 1952 Loewy NCL Dark Green color 057, and thin it 50% with their thinner, and test airbrush on some cardstock super low paint flow. You want it as thin as possible. Mask the area with Tamiya masking tape all around the lettering before airbrushing. -Robert
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Post by oldgrog on Feb 24, 2024 4:47:41 GMT -5
Thank you Robert. That’s the sort of way I was thinking, good to have it confirmed from another modeller. In anticipation, I had ordered the two bottles of thinner and 057 matt Loewy dark green.
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Post by oldgrog on Apr 14, 2024 6:46:29 GMT -5
Fellow modellers. Thank you for your advice, which I have followed. A slightly less than 50% dilution with the thinners of the matt version of Northern Pacific dark green, applied as 2 thin coats has produced the desired result.
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