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Post by casey on Dec 30, 2023 9:40:29 GMT -5
Hello everyone dose anybody know if a DCC Decoder list for Z gauge locos please
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Post by deon4141 on Dec 30, 2023 15:51:25 GMT -5
Have a look at Zscalemonster for both Digitrax and TCS. I personally use Digitrax, but have seen a comparison on N scale where TCS performs way better. Maybe someone here has experience with both makes and give some inputs.
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Post by tjdreams on Dec 30, 2023 15:52:13 GMT -5
Generally each decoder manufactures has a list showing which of their decoders will fit what loco on their website. But I don't know of any one list that shows which decoders fits which locos across all manufactures.
If you post a list of Loco's you want to put decoders in we might be able to help you with a list of brand and model decoder we have been able to put into that loco.
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Post by casey on Dec 31, 2023 9:55:25 GMT -5
Generally each decoder manufactures has a list showing which of their decoders will fit what loco on their website. But I don't know of any one list that shows which decoders fits which locos across all manufactures. If you post a list of Loco's you want to put decoders in we might be able to help you with a list of brand and model decoder we have been able to put into that loco. Thank you will post list of locos best I can
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Post by BAZman on Dec 31, 2023 14:48:36 GMT -5
In s basic comparison:
Digitrax is a 2-Function F0 for Forward Light & F1 for Reverse Light TCS is a 4-Function: same F0 for Forward Light & F1 for Reverse Light plus 2 more Functions F2 & F3, typically for Ditch Lights, Beacon, Number boards, etc.
Digitrax & TCS are “drop-in” for ~90% of AZL. Digitrax only for MTL GP9 & GP35 Digitrax only for Märklin (limited chassis but fairly common chassis)
“Drop-In” is a misnomer. The Decoder manufactures use a slightly thinner board (but used longer time than AZL) so the are ‘too loose’ and would fall out. Rather than AZL to start making the chassis to the world-wide dimensions, the decoder manufactures add solder to help make them fit. But so much though that you hsve to CAREFULLY scrape moset all of the solder off, so you get to finally fit in the chassis notches.
The next is the motor contacts on the decoder board making contact with the motor in the chassis, without touching the metal chassis. This next to impossible to see. You must use a DVM (digital voltmeter) or the old school VOM (Volt Ohm meter) to check for NO continuity (no short).
What was your idea for using with DCC? Normally it is used to run 2-3 trains on separate loops or 1 running loop and a switching loco sneaking on and off the mainline.
DCC runs on a lot more power (similar Voltage but much higher current (if there is derailment or misaligned switch.
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Post by Rob Albritton on Dec 31, 2023 19:53:47 GMT -5
“Drop-In” is a misnomer. The Decoder manufactures use a slightly thinner board (but used longer time than AZL) so the are ‘too loose’ and would fall out. Rather than AZL to start making the chassis to the world-wide dimensions, the decoder manufactures add solder to help make them fit. Hi Jeff, Just to keep the record straight: that’s an oversimplification. Not blaming you because I can see how you came to those conclusions by simply seeing the final products. There were many, many rounds of discussions between us at AZL, and Digitrax and TCS regarding design, specifications, manufacturing process, and parts supply. At the end of the day, the concept was a bridge too far - although one we all agreed to and tried our best. The idea of a single SKU for a massive line of products was exceptionally tempting. Given our low sales volume compared to other scales, it was most likely the only way to get multiple decoder manufacturers involved with AZL. It was also a long time ago. PCB setup and design costs have plummeted and our sales volume has gone up, so individual PCBs are now a possibility. We have switched to screw in designs. The future looks bright. Thanks for your support and Happy new year! Rob(a)
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Post by casey on Jan 1, 2024 5:12:55 GMT -5
I Been using dcc for over 15 years on n gauge layouts now I have no longer the space for my Autistic children had drop down a gauge plus requiring dcc to enable 6 per session to operate locos dcc is a great help as for derailments on switches surely that come to bad track laying regardless of dcc or analog many thanks for everyones help and info greatly appreciated
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