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Post by casey on Sept 7, 2023 5:08:17 GMT -5
Rokuan Z gauge briefcase track plan Hi Guys and Gals just wondering what locos would be able to run on this track plan please very tight curves Attachments:
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Post by cwrr on Sept 7, 2023 9:24:25 GMT -5
Probably a Geep only, 40' boxcars.
...or, maybe a trolley layout?
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Post by dazed on Sept 7, 2023 14:04:13 GMT -5
Do we know the radius? Guessing the yellows are 170mm? If so then yes, maybe geeps (and depending on the freight cars) or Rokuhan shorties. Probably limited to shorter freight cars too, might get by with GP38-2 and 50ft MTL boxcars.
The other issue is the grade, that exaggerates the problems with sharp curves, and that grade may be such that you'll only be able to pull a couple of cars, tops.
And again, I'd suggest a thread "Casey's Layout Ideas" and keep posting to that versus starting a new thread daily.
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Post by Curn on Sept 7, 2023 15:59:21 GMT -5
I have a briefcase layout of about the same track plan with 145mm curves, but using MTL flex track. Every 4 axel diesel I have will go around 145mm curves. The only one I don't have to test is an AZL RS3, but there is a large possibility it will work. Even the AZL Budd Railcars will work, but they are so long it doesn't look right at all. Generally, for AZL locomotives I know I'm going to use on a tight radius, I used the included pilot mounted front coupler for looks, but I leave the rear coupler truck mounted for coupling to cars.
So for a list of what will work:
AZL: GP7/GP9, GP30, GP38-2, F3, F7, SW1500
MTL: F7, GP9, GP35
Marklin: 0-6-0, 2-6-0, 4-6-0
Any Rokuhan Shorty
Any TheZMaker locomotives
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Post by cwrr on Sept 7, 2023 22:18:15 GMT -5
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Post by Curn on Sept 8, 2023 2:27:50 GMT -5
Unfortunately, those passenger cars all have body mounted couplers, and so does the F59PHI. I just tested it on my case layout and, the cars are derailing as soon as it hits a curve. I just tested a set on some 170mm curves and it was still derailing on those turns. I removed the F59PHI from the above list, The locomotive itself has no issues going around the curves, but running an engine without cars is no fun.
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Post by Rob Albritton on Sept 8, 2023 8:02:21 GMT -5
A quick reminder: we design down to 195mm radius reliable operation for AZL. We do have some products that handle much tighter radius curves. The aforementioned RDC is a good example.
Now, I "torture test" our products on much tighter turns just to see what they will do, but I have to assume worst-case scenario for track work and conditions. I'll intentionally misalign test track at connections and put kinks into the track (both horizontal and vertical) create triple "S" curves and things like that. If it runs well on "bad" track, then it's ready for the real world.
Marklin designs their products to function down to to 145mm radius - with some exceptions like the ICE3.
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Post by sjl on Sept 8, 2023 12:16:25 GMT -5
Now, I "torture test" our products on much tighter turns just to see what they will do, but I have to assume worst-case scenario for track work and conditions. I'll intentionally misalign test track at connections and put kinks into the track (both horizontal and vertical) create triple "S" curves and things like that. If it runs well on "bad" track, then it's ready for the real world. Have you been using my layout when I'm not home? |
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