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Post by parakiet on Feb 13, 2022 10:38:29 GMT -5
Hello Hello
The last Black Friday deals brought me a couple of SD45's.
At the moment I am contemplating an Alco RS2.
Now I am searching the appropriate 1945-~1970 rolling stock. (Having UP and Southern locs) what wagons should I get? Any help is appreciated!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2022 11:18:41 GMT -5
I am modelling 1965 (NH and NYC), most of my (freight) car models are MTL and FT, a few from AZL ; if You are in USA look at ZScale Monster, he has a great choice and explains the history of each model very well (date of servicing, to avoid anachronisms) ; Z Scale Hobo sells the same items, but their history is not explained ; on MTL You should swap the axles to those with metal wheels (Fox Valley or FT, they are equally good) ; my passenger service is provided by a double Budd railcar ... |
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Post by rgs455 on Feb 13, 2022 11:19:20 GMT -5
Hi hmm.. I got myself some MTL stuff for this era.. even though I'd rather stick with the AZL cars.. I had trouble finding stuff. BR Boris
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Post by markm on Feb 13, 2022 11:23:40 GMT -5
Hello Hello The last Black Friday deals brought me a couple of SD45's. At the moment I am contemplating an Alco RS2. Now I am searching the appropriate 1945-~1970 rolling stock. (Having UP and Southern locs) what wagons should I get? Any help is appreciated! Welcome to the group. The SD45 are a bit late for the era you mention, particularly since the 60s was a time of changes. The big mover in your era would be boxcars. Grain was still being haul in box cars well into the 1960s. Wood-sided boxcars and reefers would be common. 8000 gal tank cars, just about any car <50 feet. And don’t forget a couple of cabooses to match the roadnames of your locomotives. Mark |
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Post by parakiet on Feb 15, 2022 6:49:31 GMT -5
southern.railfan.net/images/archive/southern/sd45/sou3103.htmlThose sd45's were still 'new' in the early 70's. Anything that would have been used up untill the early 70's matches the concept of my railroad. However a more modern (from the 80's till now) rolling stock would definitely not match. Actually my rr is an EU one. I am adding in some reliable azl and Rokuhan diesels. Industrial road switchers with industrial cargo. I was more thinking down the line of flat cars and open hoppers or gondolas. But why not add 8 boxcars for a short train 
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Post by sjl on Feb 15, 2022 11:45:16 GMT -5
So I model a similar era, but I'm not real strict about the type of car, but instead the railroad that is marked on the car – that is, I avoid Conrail, NS, BNSF, CSX, because they were all created after my era. That said, I'm not doing autoracks or modern tankers.
Similarly, I have a CP GP38-2 on my layout because that model could be from my era, even if the specific road number is actually from the early 1980s. But I generally won't run one of the big modern locos.
I think everyone has to find their own level of "strictness" with regard to historical accuracy.
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Post by oldgrog on Feb 16, 2022 6:45:25 GMT -5
An excellent guide is “Freight cars of the 40’s and 50’s “ by Jeff Wilson, and the companion volume “Modern freight cars “. They are Model Railroader publications, available from the publishers Kalmbach.
I agree metal wheels are essential - the plastic ones accumulate dirt and spread it over the track, degrading electrical contact.
Have a look at Ztrackresale where you will find a great variety, especially for the earlier types you need.
For value, consider buying in sets of between 2 and 8, to build up stock initially.
Starting in 1945 a steam loco would have been nice, but I think the UP and Southern mikados are now sold out unfortunately.
F3/7 and/or GP7/9 would be appropriate, and the GP38-2 is a bargain must-have.
It all costs money - take time to do some research, and plan a programme of purchases.
Good luck, and enjoy.
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Post by parakiet on Feb 16, 2022 13:24:03 GMT -5
instead the railroad that is marked on the car – that is, I avoid Conrail, NS, BNSF, CSX, because they were all created after my era. Similarly, I have a CP GP38-2 on my layout because that model could be from my era, even if the specific road number is actually from the early 1980s. But I generally won't run one of the big modern locos. That's a good approach! I have to relay on all kind of websites to figure out what could have been possible and then match it against available store stocks.. in EU! A few days in the search I also came on to this website: www.srha.net/public/photos/photo_browse.asp Searching wagon type + trovestar also got me some info. We are getting there |
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Post by parakiet on Feb 16, 2022 17:41:33 GMT -5
An excellent guide is “Freight cars of the 40’s and 50’s “ by Jeff Wilson, a I agree metal wheels are essential - the plastic ones accumulate dirt and spread it over the track, degrading electrical contact. For value, consider buying in sets of between 2 and 8, to build up stock initially. Starting in 1945 a steam loco would have been nice, but I think the UP and Southern mikados are now sold out unfortunately. F3/7 and/or GP7/9 would be appropriate, and the GP38-2 is a bargain must-have. It all costs money - take time to do some research, and plan a programme of purchases. Good luck, and enjoy. Thanks for your advice. I followed your advice and ordered 2 of their books. Focussing on the '40 and '50 American railroads Yes I try to buy in batches of 4 or even 8. Piece by piece costs too much in shipping. Yes, changing to metal wheels is planned. Limiting myself to hoppers, boxcars and flatcars for the time being. Since I am collecting Marklin for years I have a nice collection steam and a few diesels from what they call "ERA III" I am searching something to break or stand out. A bit like the ML 4000 brought diesel-hydraulic to America, those locs can bring diesel-electric to my MRR Instead of a '45 steamer I'll go for a Alco RS2. Kinda falling in love on those round shapes  I don't like that low blocky hooded design of others.. Yes it costs, however limiting to a certain period or certain scene helps. That's the planning and research, and to be fair: the research is half the fun! Car parts or a walk-in-closet full of shoes and clothes are perhaps even more expensive Collections need to grow by the year anyway |
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