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Post by CNE1899 on Feb 19, 2021 13:31:23 GMT -5
Hi all, I did a search on the internet and another site looking for 1920s and 1930s era US Z scale freight cars. I am currently working in the late 19th century, and of course, next to nothing exists for this era in rolling stock. I have had to do a lot of research, which I actually enjoy. But know I am considering doing a future shelf layout or two in the 20s-30s era, and want to know if any produced Z scale rolling stock covers that era. It does not have to be limited to current offerings, but what has been offered over the years (kits included). Any thoughts, pictures, lists, of products will be appreciated.
Note, I have posted this on another site, so if you have answered there, thanks.
Thanks, Scott
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Post by sjl on Feb 19, 2021 14:22:08 GMT -5
The challenge you will have is that there is essentially only one AZL steam engine (not counting stuff done in Brass) – the Mikado. In diesel, even the oldest engines are from the 1940s. The oldest is the F3, which is essentially post-War. There are a couple of relevant freight car models: www.zscalemonster.com/azl/904300/www.zscalemonster.com/azl/903100/The forthcoming tank cars which date from 1917 will also be relevant. And the heavyweight passenger cars: www.zscalemonster.com/azl/71000/MTL has a better selection of early freight cars, but you still face the engine problem.
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Post by CNE1899 on Feb 19, 2021 17:48:05 GMT -5
sjl,
Thanks for the reply. I'm not too worried about motive power, I'll make my own. I'm thinking a CNJ 4-6-0 L6 camelback and PRR 6-B 0-6-0. Thanks for the Z Scale Monster links. I'm just wondering what rolling stock from that era was/is produced.
Thanks, Scott
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Post by kevinc on Feb 19, 2021 19:46:30 GMT -5
Scott, You might want to subscribe to the "Unofficial Micro-Trains Release Report" www.irwinsjournal.com/umtrr/He details each and every Micro-Trains car released. His archive goes back to 1996.
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Post by CNE1899 on Feb 19, 2021 19:55:28 GMT -5
Kevin,
I came across Irwins Journal in my search, but thought it no longer existed.
Thanks for the link, I'll check it out. I'd like to support MTL.
Scott
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Post by bloodynose on Feb 19, 2021 21:41:17 GMT -5
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Post by bloodynose on Feb 19, 2021 21:45:47 GMT -5
The one thing I don't like about Marklin are the huge toy like couplers but with a little work they probably could be replaced with mtl couplers
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Post by CNE1899 on Feb 19, 2021 22:24:35 GMT -5
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Post by husafreak on Feb 19, 2021 22:38:34 GMT -5
Wow, I looked up the Marklin 88036 just out of curiosity and there's one on fleabay for under 200. Seems pretty reasonable?
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Post by bloodynose on Feb 19, 2021 22:54:11 GMT -5
That is a very unique locomotive... I've never seen something like that before! Looks like you're getting it done though, nice job!
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Post by bloodynose on Feb 19, 2021 23:07:11 GMT -5
Wow, I looked up the Marklin 88036 just out of curiosity and there's one on fleabay for under 200. Seems pretty reasonable? I have 2 that are in excellent condition, one is part of the set with 5 passenger cars and the other is locomotive only. They run really well using the Rokuhan controller, slightly noisy but not as loud as an mtl F7. I would think a price of under 200 is reasonable for good to excellent condition especially since they are not being produced any more.
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Post by bloodynose on Feb 19, 2021 23:23:00 GMT -5
I am planning on changing the coupler of the one locomotive to an mtl style to pull old freight and logging cars and might repaint it. Will probably leave the set alone for collectors value though...
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Post by bloodynose on Feb 19, 2021 23:27:35 GMT -5
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Post by markm on Feb 20, 2021 9:43:57 GMT -5
Scott, You seem to be well versed in early 20th century railroads. so forgive me if it seems like I'm occasionally peaching to the choir, those comments are more for the general audience here. Outside of government-enforced standardizations during the wars (hence the USRA Mikado) railroads were very much DIY, generally making it difficult to point to mass produced equipment, with a few exceptions. AZL's upcoming tank car and outside braced boxcar are two good exceptions that have already been discussed. Another that comes to mind is the PFE or "ice box" cars. Appropriate cars have been produced by AZL, MTL and FT. MTL has additionally produced various produce and meat packer branded cars that would be appropriate. www.zscalemonster.com/mt/518-00-000/You could also consider stock cars: www.zscalemonster.com/mt/520-00-000/ These were typically run as unit trains with a drovers' caboose to carry accompanying stock handlers. It was not unusual for the caboose to be a modified turn-of-the-century passenger coach or combine. Speaking of cabooses, I know of nothing era-appropriate except for possibly one of the rslaser kits. Of course since this was a DIY era, some railroads built them out of old boxcars: Doors and windows are available in brass and although not currently available in retail, Zelatory produced an appropriate platform: www.zscalemonster.com/zelatory/zel-501.jpgFinally don't discount Nn3 rolling stock. Several MTL 30' Nn3 cars will work in Z. In particular I ran across one particular hopper produced by MTL at a show that works: Although not your interest, since Märklin locomotives have been mentioned a couple of quick comments. While the locomotives are a compromise combination of the general features, there is a bit you can do to improve them. In particular Zelatory (through Monster Z) has conversion kits to MTL trucks and coupler that work well and look good. I also converted to an LED headlamp from Ztrack. Hope this helps, Mark
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Post by CNE1899 on Feb 20, 2021 9:57:51 GMT -5
That is a very unique locomotive... I've never seen something like that before! Looks like you're getting it done though, nice job! bloody nose, Thanks! I hope to build a big brother, 4-6-0 in the future. That is why I'm looking for rolling stock. Scott
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