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Post by casey on Dec 12, 2020 18:19:11 GMT -5
 Hi guys my new layout baseboard arrived good few weeks back since have trying to get my a nice track plan where I have plenty of operational. use and few locos running around will be a DCC Layout using DR5000 Dcc unit throttle will few iPod touch and my phone All rolling stock is Swiss and Austrian plus some German track being used 30 lengths Flexi Track Marklin 5 double slips 9 right hand points and 6 left hand points to full circles of 4th and 3rd radius curves 10 x25mm 10x55mm 20x110mm 30x220mm 1 Left hand curved point and 1 right hand curved point have bonn station already built 1 ice 3 8 car set my longest loco Would like some automation if possible everyone says my new track plan is Blane and not very operational and advice. more than welcome BASEBOARD SIZE 1m80cm x 75cm |
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Post by dazed on Dec 13, 2020 10:25:56 GMT -5
A few questions/comments...
1. Is the entire top area hidden? I see the tunnels...I assume/hope you have access to those tracks.
2. Personally, I would eliminate the red line turnouts along the top. (and convert the double-slips to regular turnouts...or see below) You have access to get trains from red to green along the front. Just an unnecessary expense and operational headache.
3. Along that same line of thinking, move the "green line-blue line" crossover from the back to the front. Removing as many turnouts from hidden trackage as you can is a good idea, and there doesn't seem to be a huge need for them. So to recap, the only turnouts I would have in the back are for the siding on the blue line.
4. There are other things I would personally try to remedy, like the S-curves where the curves meet the turnouts on the blue line, but admittedly I don't know enough about the Marklin turnouts to know if this will be a big deal. Probably not. The curves near the double tunnel portals are very close to the edge of the layout...be aware of that. Gravity does bad things to locomotives.
Anyway, just my two cents. Looks like it will be a fun layout and that Bonn station should be a great scene.
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Post by dazed on Dec 13, 2020 10:56:04 GMT -5
 My attempt at simplifying. In my mind, the only reason for the complex hidden trackage would be the "which tunnel is the train going to come out of next game". And if that's important to you then great! The only thing I might be tempted to do is add another siding to the red line in the hidden trackage. I know that goes against what I've been saying, but IF you have open access to that track, it would serve as a staging track since that line seems to be your freight-focused line. So operationally, you could bring the incoming freight for the day from that siding into the open layout area, switch it amongst the industries in the center, and then once the work for the day was completed you could send it back to the siding. And you could still run a through freight or passenger train as well. Just a thought. (EDIT: And depending on the answer about the Bonn station below, I would probably add one additional red track to the red yard. Just for some additional capacity for switching without interfering too much with the through trains on the red line.) It just occurred to me that maybe the Bonn station is intended to fit in the space between the red and yellow tracks, versus the front? I'm not sure what the footprint is of that structure. So maybe that's why the tracks were so close to the edge? I pulled everything in on my version so if that's the case you'd have to revert back to that I guess. Not a deal-breaker, just make sure there's something to minimize the chance of a derailment causing a catastrophic destruction of rolling stock...maybe a retaining wall adjacent the portal or something. Anyway, here are the changes for the freight line, should that be of interest.  |
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Post by casey on Dec 13, 2020 12:23:16 GMT -5
The size of station 41cm x 10cm my longest loco I.C.E 3 8 car set Attachments:
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Post by casey on Dec 15, 2020 22:25:47 GMT -5
Hi dazed been playing about with few ideas for layout using scram software think the two main lines will go nicely for bonn station at the back gives storage for holding locos freight etc my question if there away of using marklin curved turnouts [aka points]to get into middle. to have a fiddle yard come shunting and industries would it be operationally. possible also been looking trying evaluate the track from Blane and boring any help welcomed thank you Casey Attachments:
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Post by dazed on Dec 16, 2020 12:49:46 GMT -5
I know very little about Marklin track. The feedback I've always received was bad, and was a big part of why I stayed away from Z until Rokuhan (and now Atlas) came along. I was actually going to mention curved turnouts as a possibility, but even at their best they can be tricky and unreliable. The Rokuhan's seem to work well, but using curved turnouts is almost always going to be a risk, especially on a main line. Long story short, I would hate to steer someone into a bunch of problems.
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Post by casey on Dec 16, 2020 14:30:10 GMT -5
Hi good people update on track plan part 2 Please feel free to voice your opinions on changes or adding to plan will not upset or offended Attachments:
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Post by casey on Dec 16, 2020 16:20:54 GMT -5
Update to my track plan its not really what wanted would like some elevation and tunnels Happy for any to change or add to track plan software used scram Attachments:
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Post by casey on Dec 17, 2020 19:22:32 GMT -5
Hi guys just been looking all bits of track building etc available Track wise have plenty of switches curved 4th and 3rd both in 45% and 30% angles two full circles of each 30 lengths of Marklin Flexi track [30 straights 220 ] [30 55straight] [40 1110 Straights] [20 25 straights] [Two pairs of r/h curved points ] Only track I will need to order is [108 Straight x 20] [112 Straights x 20] [ 20 correction curves for points x 20]. Buildings I have One Bonn Station a pair of electric twin engine sheds goods shed some sort of industries Attachments:
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Post by casey on Dec 17, 2020 20:13:46 GMT -5
Hi guys please feel free to voice your opinions or concerns about this layout more happy to listen and learn Casey
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Post by casey on Dec 17, 2020 21:15:32 GMT -5
Ok another update add few load siding to allow locos and carriages to be stabled ready use do I or don't. I interlock on right side of layout the sidings so then can shunt anything any where I think lol Attachments:
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Post by casey on Dec 19, 2020 6:06:26 GMT -5
The good news I have now finalised next layout plan been many many drafts and blood sweat and tears but at long last I'm happy with it take a look if think I have over looked something or something needs to be change please. voice your opinion before I start laying track down please note will not be upset of offended by anyones comment Attachments:
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Post by casey on Dec 19, 2020 12:21:17 GMT -5
k guys taking onboard a lot of what has been said so I have extended the length of layout by 50mm so as I now have 3rd radius curves on in circle its now 1750cm long and 610cm wide the over all size is 1m80cm x 75cm wide as stated nothing set in stone if you have another way so as I get the best of both worlds scenic and operational use Attachments:
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Post by BAZman on Dec 19, 2020 14:22:23 GMT -5
You could aso 'angle' the lower yard. On the lower left, the orange track, bottom of the curve. Insert a LH turnout (TO) and run a straight line to the yellow TO (use a normal 110mm straight between the 2 TO's). You can then connect that new TO straight across to the right-hand side, connecting to an new RH TO at the bottom of that orange loop. Can you post your SCARM (or Atlas version) file, so I don't have to recreate it, just for exact visual. Attached is the crude markup of above suggestion:  |
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Post by neverland on Dec 21, 2020 16:10:39 GMT -5
Some people like landscapes. Others like track. You’re going to have LOTS of track! 😃
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Hi guys my new layout baseboard arrived good few weeks back since have trying to get my a nice track plan where I have plenty of operational. use and few locos running around will be a DCC Layout using DR5000 Dcc unit throttle will few iPod touch and my phone 
