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Post by trainboy4 on Apr 25, 2013 10:56:44 GMT -5
It would be really cool if AZL made the California Zephyr cars. I would buy tons of them.  I would hope they would use Nickel paint which looks like stainless steel.  |
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Post by markm on Apr 25, 2013 13:46:30 GMT -5
I'd be interested in them too.Rember that the AT&SF ran Budds on the Super Chief. AZL also has the "Budd Experience" with the RDCs.
If memory serves, Budd only built 62 cars for the Zephyr, it would be a bit difficult to buy "tons."
I don't care much for the Nickel paint: too blue a reflection. :-(
Mark
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Post by trainboy4 on Apr 25, 2013 13:52:33 GMT -5
All 62 then. ;D
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Post by Rob Albritton on Apr 25, 2013 14:13:53 GMT -5
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Post by markm on Apr 25, 2013 23:22:29 GMT -5
THAT sounds like a new product comittment! So do you have a schedule yet? ;-)
I afraid however I only want two train sets (20 cars) and I already have the RDCs.
Mark
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Post by BAZman on Apr 26, 2013 17:44:18 GMT -5
Nice, a long train to run. Just need a diesel set to put in front of them.
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Post by markm on Apr 27, 2013 10:27:15 GMT -5
Jeff's right. The Zephyr would be the perfect train for those new WP F3 you'll be releasing soon?
Of course you'll have to do interiors and at least an option for interior lighting, the lighted heald...... ;D
But please, don't tint the windows.
Mark
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Post by burlingtonroute on Apr 9, 2014 18:09:41 GMT -5
Maybe with this new cooperation with Märklin, a Zephyr set could be done with their old cars. The problem is, there was a special edition California Zephyr made with silver plating by Märklin, (Only a few cars, and they were not accurate.) Still they were the ones with the corrugated sides.
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Post by markm on Apr 9, 2014 19:01:45 GMT -5
I'd go for a set, so long as their are enough domes or the ability to buy add-ons. The Marklin rib-sides were good for their time, but that was decades ago.
Mark
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Post by Rob Albritton on Apr 10, 2014 6:49:32 GMT -5
Since I'm the Master of the Heavyweights project, I naturally started looking at lightweights (streamliners) next. Hans and I talked about it last week. In short: it's difficult.
Pre-WW2 Heavyweights were almost exclusively constructed, owned, and operated by the Pullman Company. This resulted in large quantities of standard design cars. There were over 920 Pullman 12-1 sleepers!
After the 1947 break up of the Pullman Company, a lot of those Heavyweights got repainted in various railroad colors, and the railroads started ordering new lightweight equipment as upgrades and replacements.
The problem is that since a passenger car is essentially a hand built item, it's not too expensive to change the configuration. Pullman wanted interchangeability so their cars could run on any line. The railroads wanted individual personality to differentiate their product.
So in the streamline era, there were very few individual cars that were made in large quantities. This is a problem when tooling costs are expensive.
We are actively looking for more passenger cars to produce, but the research for this project is tricky to say the least.
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Post by markm on Apr 10, 2014 12:08:15 GMT -5
Rob(A),
Glad to hear that you folks are looking at the Budd cars. I think you have at least two pre-pre-orders here.
I agree about the difficulty and the variations. I think one has to consider fleets by trains rather than road. All the "Zephyrs" tended to run similar equipment across all the roads, as did the "Chiefs" and the "Cities".
Despite the custom car orders, Budd still built it as a somewhat standard car with options. I wonder if separate window panels that fit into a standard body might work in Z? To me window configuration is the number discriminator of passenger cars.
Just some thoughts,
Mark
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Post by trainboy4 on Jul 8, 2014 10:48:18 GMT -5
If you do release the zephyr please do one consist at a time. So we can afford them.
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Post by markm on Jul 8, 2014 11:36:04 GMT -5
If you do release the zephyr please do one consist at a time. So we can afford them. Actually, I like the Walther's Car style of the month approach. I also like the idea of pre-orders or reservations. This way AZL could have a better handle on production quantities. The biggest issue I have with AZL production is how popular new designs can be and how often AZL will sell out a production run. Mark |
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Post by trainboy4 on Jul 8, 2014 13:27:42 GMT -5
If you do release the zephyr please do one consist at a time. So we can afford them. Actually, I like the Walther's Car style of the month approach. I also like the idea of pre-orders or reservations. This way AZL could have a better handle on production quantities. The biggest issue I have with AZL production is how popular new designs can be and how often AZL will sell out a production run. Mark Even better. It's just that all the SP Heavyweight broke the bank and I'm not sure I can do that again.  One type of car a month with a couple different names on them. I might be able to do that. |
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Post by charlie on Dec 6, 2014 3:44:22 GMT -5
Jeff's right. The Zephyr would be the perfect train for those new WP F3 you'll be releasing soon?Woow this is exactly what I dream of, WP (the orange one!)or D&RGW california zephyr with F3 Locos  |
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