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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 16:42:36 GMT -5
Hello (unfortunately ! ) ... Rokuhan turnouts can sometimes cause issues ! Look at the moving part : both sides are "straight", one should be "round", parallel to the outer rail of the deviant track. So, when in deviant position, almost in the middle of the moving part the width of the track is less than the norm ; my MTL GP9 has a problem : when running over a Rokuhan turnout in deviant position, the wheels lift about 1 mm, and it "shakes" ; and if I push it while holding it down, I can feel that it jams. My other AZL locos seem to have a "margin", but the wheels of the MTL chassis are "wider" with less tolerance. For myself, I wonder if it would be possible to press the wheels slighly together (in a vise between two, maybe wooden, "adapter" plates), or if I should replace with an AZL GP7/9 chassis (with thin Evergreen plates between the shell and the chassis, for the difference in width, as suggested in a former topic) ?
Thanks for any answer !
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Post by BAZman on May 3, 2018 18:18:23 GMT -5
yeah, there have been some that I've measured that were 'tight'. Also the straight rout on MTL's have an inward 'bow' by several thousandths. Before you bend rail and go all hog out and change the chassis (think about it: they both should be in gauge , please check your MTL GP wheel gauge. Use the small notches in the MTL coupler/track gauge or, an NN3 gauge plate. We operate on thousandths of an inch tolerance. When MTL came out with their turnouts, AZL's locos where a few thousandth under gauge (current product is 'good'). MTL 988 00 032 or the Nn3 gauge plate RLW 2428 at www.republiclocomotiveworks.com/show_item.php?ID=570 RLW 2428
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2018 12:13:14 GMT -5
Thanks to Mr Marsilius (my German dealer for MTL) I could solve the problem : in fact on 3 from 4 axles the wheels were not pushed together "to the stop" ; a slight "shaking" on turnouts seems to be usual : the "crossing nose" is raised a little, see on Youtube 2:55 to 3:25.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2018 17:36:41 GMT -5
PS : unfortunately this was not enough ... On some Rokuhan turnouts the "gauge" goes as low as 6.3mm ! AZL locos and MTL cars equipped with FT axles run through with slight "shake" when running "not full speed" (in theory this rule should always be respected, at least when the turnout is in the "deviant" position) . But Mr. Marsilius explained how I could disassemble the axles to their 3 parts and file away some supplementary metal ... Hope this helps ! P.S to BAZman, about the MTL 988 00 032 : what should I make with a gauge dedicated to the coupler height ? Or does it have a "part" for the wheels, too ? I don't know if Nn3 is exactly the same as Z ...
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2018 8:11:13 GMT -5
Problem solved by Mr. Marsilius : he modified the axles to a width of 0.2mm less ... And now the loco runs OK !
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Post by markm on May 18, 2018 11:13:14 GMT -5
The MTL gauge has additional features for rough gauge checks. It works well. The Nn3 wheel standards are 0.15mm +-0.05mm smaller than the Z standard. I was wondering if NEM has the appropriate gauge standard (I don't see one in their English documents) and if someone on your side of the world produces a physical gauge?
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