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Post by ztrack on Mar 4, 2017 11:04:53 GMT -5
Since we have so many new AZL enthusiasts on the forum, I thought this would be a good time to share that AZL has a number of exclusive items available. These are not available through AZL dealers.  First we have Susquehanna SD70Ms. Three road numbers are available.  Next we have Nickel Plate Light Mikados. Two road numbers are available.   We also have a very special offer on NYC and PRR brass streamlined passenger sets. We have PRR and NYC sets available. We will include 2x matching E8s We have a very limited number of these sets available. Finally, all of F59PHIs sets with the Bombardier passenger cars are $99.00. This includes the locomotive and four passenger cars. This offer does not include the Amtrak F59PHi sets. See all of these specials at: www.azldirect.com/exclusivesRob |
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Post by zoinks007 on Mar 4, 2017 13:24:40 GMT -5
Having serious drooling issues over those PRR sets (you can probably tell by my avatar). Although worth it at twice the price (and would be twice the price once sold out on fleabay), it's a chunk, but I'm savin'...  I tend to run freight, but those are too hard to pass up. |
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Post by markm on Mar 5, 2017 9:48:24 GMT -5
They're being offered at a substantial discount from the original MSRP.
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Post by fulingyu on Mar 6, 2017 22:30:56 GMT -5
Kinda curious now. Why are the Bombardier sets discounted so low but not the Surfliner sets? Is it the Amtrak name?
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Post by zscalehobo on Mar 7, 2017 12:31:57 GMT -5
Kinda curious now. Why are the Bombardier sets discounted so low but not the Surfliner sets? Is it the Amtrak name? You only discount those things that are over-stocked or slow moving to sell. It would make sense that the Amtrak F59PHI sets have a more wide appeal (nationwide) whereas the regional sets only have regional appeal. |
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Post by Rob Albritton on Mar 7, 2017 13:33:02 GMT -5
Correct: the F59phi / Bombardier sets were our first injection project and we did not size the order corrrectly. We still have them in stock years later.
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Post by fulingyu on Mar 7, 2017 21:31:34 GMT -5
Ah, I see. I was wondering if it had something to do with licensing and fees.
Thanks for the explanation.
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Post by markm on Mar 11, 2017 17:11:41 GMT -5
It would make sense that the Amtrak F59PHI sets have a more wide appeal (nationwide) whereas the regional sets only have regional appeal. Actually, the Amtrak sets are still regional as they model the trains Amtrak runs for the California Dept. of Transportation (CDTX): unique paint and the California cars: www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2307291The Pacific series car shown was a leased Superliner car. Mark |
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Post by zscalehobo on Mar 12, 2017 9:55:24 GMT -5
It would make sense that the Amtrak F59PHI sets have a more wide appeal (nationwide) whereas the regional sets only have regional appeal. Actually, the Amtrak sets are still regional as they model the trains Amtrak runs for the California Dept. of Transportation (CDTX): unique paint and the California cars: www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2307291The Pacific series car shown was a leased Superliner car. Mark Aha... I knew you would try to correct me, so that's why I said "more wide appeal." Never said the AZL Amtrak F59's were regional. Nobody in Lubbock Texas is going to want a Metrolink. But an Amtrak... that's something he can recognize, hence a "wider appeal." Always appreciate your precise information, though.  |
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Post by zoinks007 on Mar 12, 2017 17:36:27 GMT -5
They're being offered at a substantial discount from the original MSRP. No argument, and I'm thankful. But it's still just at $1700. Just saying I'm savin'... |
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Post by fulingyu on Mar 12, 2017 18:11:01 GMT -5
Not one to beat a dead horse, but I have to side with Mark here.
While you did not say that the AZL Amtrak F59's were regional, both of the Amtrak F59's are indeed regional to California and the West.
Yes, the guy in Lubbock Texas will recognize the Amtrak name and be more aware than the Metrolink name. But he will also recognize that the AZL Amtrak F59's are regional Amtrak trains. Unless he is modeling California and/or the West Coast, his "awareness" won't mean much. I'm sure he'd prefer a Texas or more local Amtrak F59 and he'll probably look more at the Dallas TRE set which is more in his region. Oh, and the TRE set has bombardier cars.
My original question was about why the bombardier sets were more discounted than the surfliner, or non-bombardier sets. Rob's answer that the bombardier sets were made first and overproduced was informative and made more sense to me than talking about Amtrak's wider appeal. At first I thought it had to do with licensing rights and fees. Amtrak being a bigger name would be more costly was my line of thought. It makes sense that after the over-production of the bombardier sets, they would be discounted more to move than the surfliner sets which were produced more in moderation
I do appreciate your trying to answer my question, but saying that Amtrak has wider appeal than regional sets when the Amtrak sets in question are also regional sets doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
Anyway, thanks for all your help and information
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2017 19:06:00 GMT -5
I have found the F59 sets to be a bargain at $100 and make an excellent set for a fantasy repaint.
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Post by fulingyu on Mar 13, 2017 0:04:28 GMT -5
I have found the F59 sets to be a bargain at $100 and make an excellent set for a fantasy repaint. And I thank you for my Daylight repaint. |
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Post by ztrack on Mar 16, 2017 6:26:20 GMT -5
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Post by DAZed on Mar 16, 2017 10:47:29 GMT -5
I do appreciate your trying to answer my question, but saying that Amtrak has wider appeal than regional sets when the Amtrak sets in question are also regional sets doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I think that you are not taking into account the fact that MOST model railroaders don't know or care that something is "regional" or not. Whether that makes sense to you or not, the FACT is that Amtrak sets sold better, and thus aren't in an overstock condition, and thus won't be on fire sale probably ever. The reality is, the Amtrak name alone will attract modelers and they'll run it in the Rockies or under catenary in the Northeast corridor or on their Hawaii inter-island railway for that matter.  There are just some iconic railroad names and places and logos and stories that just have a broad appeal, and Amtrak is definitely one of them. Put the Santa Fe warbonnet scheme on those same commuter sets and watch them fly off the shelves. Now, having said all of that, I personally wouldn't buy those regional Amtrak sets to run in North Texas, just like I wouldn't buy TRE sets to run in California. I'm quite the stickler on such matters, probably even moreso than I would like to be. But I recognize that I'm in the minority, and I respect those that just run trains for the fun of it without regards to what the proto-police think.  That is part of the reason I moved to Z is so I could start fresh and not have such a stringent attitude about such things. (in Z, often times you have no choice but let some things slide.) And I have to admit I'm having a little more fun with it. |
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I tend to run freight, but those are too hard to pass up.
That is part of the reason I moved to Z is so I could start fresh and not have such a stringent attitude about such things. (in Z, often times you have no choice but let some things slide.) And I have to admit I'm having a little more fun with it.