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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2020 4:02:22 GMT -5
Which locomotives could be seen in Massachusetts in the 60's ? OK for NH and NYC, but any other (maybe occasional appearance) ?
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Post by markm on Feb 5, 2020 7:49:21 GMT -5
This is really out of my field of expertise, but generally speaking locomotives rarely strayed from their home system due to operational and physical equipment differences between railroads. The only other railroad I can think of in the area would be the Boston and Maine (B&M). You might want to start your search with: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Massachusetts_railroadsThere are always some purpose specific short lines that would would carry freight between shipping terminals and railroads or between railroads, etc. Unfortunately these short lines are rarely modeled in Z, or any other scale. Mark
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 5:21:16 GMT -5
I saw at AZL a GP38 labelled "short line railroad" (from where ? ) Could I mix it with my roster of NH-NYC ? And what's about ... a caboose ?
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Post by pcbpoppy on Mar 20, 2020 10:33:57 GMT -5
I saw at AZL a GP38 labelled "short line railroad" (from where ? ) Could I mix it with my roster of NH-NYC ? And what's about ... a caboose ?
The herald is left blank so you can add your own decal letters for which ever of the short line railroad that G&W own.
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Post by markm on Mar 20, 2020 22:43:42 GMT -5
As far as short lines in the 1960s. most were individually owned, or owned by one or more major railroads that made a connection to them. While the G&W has been around for a long time, consolidation of short lines under their umbrella or other companies such as OmniTRAX didn't occur until the railroad deregulation of the late 70s and early 80s. The only short line from your region and era I can think of in Z is the Central Vermont from MTL.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 2:22:28 GMT -5
Thanks Mark, but the only loco would be the GP9 skin at Z Scale Monster, and I could not find any suitable loco to modify (GP9 or GP35), neither at Z Scale Monster nor at Marsilius. So I will stay with my NH-NYC roster ; perhaps I could add a MTL NYC F7 by Marsilius ... when it would be available again (backordered), unfortunately the shape looks VERY MUCH like the F3, the only distinctive difference beeing the colour pattern ...
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Post by cjm413 on Mar 21, 2020 20:55:01 GMT -5
I saw at AZL a GP38 labelled "short line railroad" (from where ? ) Could I mix it with my roster of NH-NYC ? And what's about ... a caboose ?
The herald is left blank so you can add your own decal letters for which ever of the short line railroad that G&W own.
Both the Genesee and Wyoming "family" and the GP38-2 are too modern for the 1960's. In the 1960's, the Genesee and Wyoming railroad was a shortline in western New York. Coincidentally, one of the COVID-19 projects I was working on today is a (N scale) GNWR covered hopper...
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Post by cjm413 on Mar 21, 2020 21:08:13 GMT -5
Thanks Mark, but the only loco would be the GP9 skin at Z Scale Monster, and I could not find any suitable loco to modify (GP9 or GP35), neither at Z Scale Monster nor at Marsilius. So I will stay with my NH-NYC roster ; perhaps I could add a MTL NYC F7 by Marsilius ... when it would be available again (backordered), unfortunately the shape looks VERY MUCH like the F3, the only distinctive difference beeing the colour pattern ... Re: AZL F3 vs. MTL F7 -"High profile" radiator fans on AZL F3 vs "low profile" radiator fans on MTL F7. Later phase F3's also had "low profile" fans like the F7 -Dynamic brakes on the F3 are two grills vs the 36" dynamic brake fan on the MTL F7. Later phase F7's that were equipped with dynamic brakes had 48" fans -"chicken wire" radiators and panel between the two portholes vs. Radiator grill and louvered side panels. Phase I F3's had three portholes and only had "chicken wire" on the radiators, later phase III F3's had louvered side panels like the F7 instead of the "chicken wire", Phase IV also had radiator grills like the F7 rather than "chicken wire"
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Post by cjm413 on Mar 21, 2020 21:22:42 GMT -5
As far as short lines in the 1960s. most were individually owned, or owned by one or more major railroads that made a connection to them. While the G&W has been around for a long time, consolidation of short lines under their umbrella or other companies such as OmniTRAX didn't occur until the railroad deregulation of the late 70s and early 80s. The only short line from your region and era I can think of in Z is the Central Vermont from MTL. MTL's CV GP9 is based on a unit that was transferred from GTW to CV in the late 1980's. Technically, this unit was originally built for CV and transferred to GTW in the early/mid 1960's, but it wouldn't have been painted blue and red until the mid/late 1970's.
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