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Post by markm on Apr 4, 2019 1:18:13 GMT -5
Since Rob K started things, here's a bit of history on some of the Southern Pacific sleepers: SP9111 - 4-4-2 sleeper. Built as the Golden River lettered for Golden State train service. Repainted from Golden State colors to Sunset Limited scheme and released to service 7/20/53 as SP9111 [Richmond Shop records] SP9114 - 4-4-2 Sleeper. Built as the Golden Crag lettered for Golden State train service. Repainted from Golden State colors to Sunset Limited scheme and released to service2/23/54 as SP9114 [Richmond Shop Records] SP9158 - 6-6-4 sleeper. Built as the Golden Sea for Golden State train service. Repainted from Golden State colors to Sunset Limited scheme and released to service 5/18/53 as SP9158 [Richmond Shop Records] In case people aren't familiar with the Golden State Limited, this was a joint service by Rock Island and Southern Pacific and looked like:  Enjoy, Mark |
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Post by markm on Apr 5, 2019 15:49:13 GMT -5
An additional note: 9111 and 9114 were part of the Golden Spike Special consist from Oakland for the Transcontinental centennial in 1969.
I guess I should ask whether this sort of information is of interest here?
Mark
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Post by Kez on Apr 5, 2019 20:19:51 GMT -5
I'm buying the entire Golden State set of cars from RobA, and then anxiously awaiting the E7's to match, so yes, this sort of information is exactly why I come here! Thanks Mark.  |
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Post by markm on Apr 5, 2019 21:02:06 GMT -5
Kez, So has RobA been holding out on us?!? Not only does he have the Golden State painted smooth-sided cars, but the Budd cars and the 10-6 sleepers? Or perhaps he's selling you the Golden Fleece.  If you haven't seen it, here's a good source for what the Golden State should look like: www.trainweb.org/fredatsf/gs50.htmThe good news is that you don't necessarily need to wait for the E7s. Beyond the train-specific SP E7 sets, they also ran various combinations of E8, E9, F7s and PAs: modelingthesp.com/Passenger_Trains/Golden_State.htmlHope this helps, Mark |
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Post by Kez on Apr 8, 2019 12:11:40 GMT -5
I've spent some time on that Trainweb page, and I'm well aware of the "compromises" made by AZL in producing these cars. I'm okay with that. It's a beautiful train. And I already have some F units and E units to pull the train while I await the color-matching locos. |
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Post by markm on Apr 8, 2019 20:55:48 GMT -5
I've spent some time on that Trainweb page, and I'm well aware of the "compromises" made by AZL in producing these cars. I'm okay with that. It's a beautiful train. So let's see it! Yeah, overall I think AZL has done an excellent job on the streamline cars. They fit most trains in some era. I would have liked to see a Pacific series 10-6 sleeper rather than another 6-6-4, but I'll live with it. I thank you (and my dealer thanks you). |
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Post by Commodore on May 19, 2019 8:51:14 GMT -5
I agree with you both. I am adding on ...for these.
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Post by markm on May 19, 2019 12:53:38 GMT -5
Another update: SP9158 along with most of the 6-6-4 sleepers from MTL were converted to Automat cars and renumbered in the 10602 series in 1962. With center windows removed, as well as the upper berth windows it ended up looking like:  |
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Post by Commodore on May 19, 2019 14:22:37 GMT -5
Thanks Mark. Looks to be an easy project...
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Post by markm on May 19, 2019 18:53:41 GMT -5
Easier than you might think. Although not apparent in any of the Automat images on-line, the SP shops just did a quick aluminum piece over the window frames. You could match the appearance with filler and a putty knife over the model glazing. Don't even need to feather out the seams as they quite visible on most cars. Touch up the paint and generate a new road number.
Although, because of bad memories of egg salad sandwiches from the automat, it's one prototype I will not model.
Mark
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Post by Commodore on May 19, 2019 19:56:31 GMT -5
Mark, I can understand your feeling. However, these are MTL cars we are talking about, here.
These are SUPPOSED to upset your stomach running them. 😳
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