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Post by markm on Jul 2, 2017 9:12:17 GMT -5
Sorry about the "gingerbread" term. It's easy to forget in your discussions that you are not a native English speaker. What it refers to is ornate design (like the gingerbread houses from the "Hansel and Gretel" children's story). But it seems you have the right idea, because I was referring to things like the turrets and the use of multiple colors of brick. Generally speaking, the railroads kept stations more functional than decorative. An example of this, a major SP station that I've known since the 1950s in Sacramento: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacramento_Valley_StationThe exception to this would be the Union stations: stations serving multiple railroads and multiple rail services. These could be quite ornate, including such things as clock towers: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland_Union_StationAs far as justifying the size of the Faller station, it doesn't seem too large and it wasn't uncommon for a railroad to build an oversized station in anticipation of growth that never happened. I'm modeling a passenger station on SP that was never used for passenger service. As for other uses of the space, the Railroad Express Agency (REA) would generally have an office. The Post Office would have some space, but mainly to send and receive mail bags. Hope this helps for your decision, Mark |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2017 10:23:20 GMT -5
Thank You Mark. I think the best thing will be to spray the walls and the supplementary edge "reinforcements" and brick parts with the same, not too dark brown colour (there is a brick-structure on the walls, too), like "Torrnstein" (it will be located in the same town), before assembling (or after, but all the way before inserting the windows and doors). Or should I use another colour ? Some windowsills could perhaps be light grey and the "archs" over the windows too, like Jackson Michigan station ...
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Post by markm on Jul 2, 2017 11:30:32 GMT -5
Brick color is very regional: grey, tan to brown and red to rust. It's more what you like as it seems to me that the area you're modeling has all the colors. Window frames tend to be black or white. I have noticed that window sills and arches tend to be a darker version on the basic wall color.
I will be interested in seeing an image of the station when you're done.
Mark
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2017 14:40:13 GMT -5
The term of "gingerbread" for some house decos seems typically "English", I never heard the German equivalent "Lebkuchen" used in that context ... and the tale of "Haensel & Gretel" comes from Germany, and even the opera by Engelbert Humperdinck, the composer, not the English crooner found at the first place in ... google !  |
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Post by markm on Jul 2, 2017 15:09:05 GMT -5
Alberich, remember for us as Americans, when it comes to children's fairy tales or opera, we are far more familiar with the Bugs Bunny versions.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 8:27:36 GMT -5
To Mark : Which colour should I use for my station ? I ordered a "terracotta" and it was ... gloss (but "ecologic" ! ) The only colours available easily as sprays are those by Tamiya. TS1 (red-brown) ? TS3 (dark yellow) is "Afrika Korps" colour. TS62 and TS90 could fit (respectively, Nato and JGSDF = japanese brown). I think that by trying to be "super-prototypical", I am running directly into madness. The default solution would be to let the station in original colours ... no one can achieve the impossible !
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Post by markm on Jul 7, 2017 12:19:30 GMT -5
Alberich, Just to make sure we are working from the same page, I'm looking at: www.tamiyausa.com/articles/ln/72/TS-chart.pdfDespite the name, TS1 doesn't look red enough to me. TS33 looks about right for the "red". Yes, I think TS3, TS90 or TS46 would work for a "tan". If you search for Massachusetts train station images, you'll note that there was a very wide range of prototype brick colors. The other direction would be to use the manufactured colors, although I'd consider dry brushing the surfaces to get the prototypical variation and weathering of the brick. There seems to be a wider range of brick-like colors in the Tamiya brushing paints. Mark |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 15:01:18 GMT -5
Thank You Mark. I think TS3 and TS46 are too "yellow" for stations built with bricks (I saw some yellow wooden stations). TS33 is rather like Falmouth. For myself, I think that TS90 (originally "Japan Ground Self Defense Forces brown") would fit the best, among Your list of colours (Pictures of Brockton, Clinton or Springfield look like this) ... The problem in this context is that many Tamiya colours are "military" oriented (but we are happy to use them for our tanks ... ). I will ask my modeller friend for his ideas (he built some, in fact military, dioramas in the past). And I agree with You about a very slight "weathering" of the bricks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 11:00:12 GMT -5
Here comes my "americanized" version of the Faller station ; we preferred no weathering, due to the small scale. Photoetched "doors" will be added at the stairs which give access to the tracks ; these stairs and additional walls were made of 1mm Evergreen ; I think 1mm (22cm) is not too much for a wall along the track which should resist to a car's (or Greyhound's ! ) "impact". So all additional walls were made with this material (different thicknesses would look rather silly).   |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 15:58:34 GMT -5
Now my station is finished ; for the freight shed I will "kitbash" faller 282740 (put two of them together and paint the same style as for the station ; I need a freight platform of about 22cm). The only problem left : I need a switch tower, too ; and because Faller has nothing similar, I took a glance at Shapeways (first page) ; Switch tower 3 (removing the deco at the edges and on top of the roof) ? St Villiers (it has bricks at the corners, I could paint the same colour, TS90, as for the station) ? Or which ? Or rather this one (by Kibri) ? Only 1 passenger track and 1 parallel freight track with turnouts to "dead end" tracks at each end ; "Switch tower 3" could fit over them ... Thanks for Your suggestions ... |
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Post by markm on Aug 10, 2017 21:57:29 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 23:50:56 GMT -5
Thank You Mark, I don't look for signals, but for a "cabin" from where the turnouts are usually controlled ... Perhaps the smaller towers by StonySmith (or the "brown-yellow" one, or the Switch Tower 4, despite of the fact that they seem to be made of wood) would be more adequate ? About the "3" : it's over the two tracks in the station, but it seems that in the background and in the foreground they join to only one "overland" track ... (I noticed the same thing with St Villiers, look at right). Or is it related with the perspective ? Or, nevertheless, this one ? It is made of bricks and it looks a little bit like Falls Junction by Bachmann (but this one seems made of wood ... ) |
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