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Post by neverland on Jun 18, 2017 4:44:36 GMT -5
As a newbie to both model railroading & z scale I'm quickly discovering that all kits are not created equal when it comes to size. I recently assembled a one room lig cabin that looks more like a garden shed. My other structures tower over it. Unfortunately I had already bought a fire tower kit from the same company. Any tips on avoiding the same mistake? I love kits but don't want to waste money or my time. Many of the packages don't list dimensions.
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Post by boxcarwilly on Jun 18, 2017 9:12:28 GMT -5
A good rule of thumb is before purchase, always ask what the dimensions are if not already shown on the package. Then you can judge for yourself if it will work.
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Post by markm on Jun 18, 2017 11:39:53 GMT -5
Beside agreeing with Willy's advice, I use the height differences as an opportunity: placing undersized structures in the background and scale or oversize structures in the foreground, simulating depth.
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Post by Tommy on Jun 19, 2017 16:52:04 GMT -5
(My reaction when a kit doesn't fit in its designated spot)
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Post by boxcarwilly on Jun 22, 2017 11:43:13 GMT -5
On this matter, I have run into a problem which is going to require a lot of work to solve. In essence, on the new section of my layout, I'm building a passenger terminal and a freight yard. It's not really a terminal, but more of a train station you'd find in any small or medium sized town on a main line. The problem I'm having is the stations that I have looked at, are all too wide to fit the space I have allotted. If I were to leave my passenger track as it is now, and use any one of a dozen or so train stations, the width of these stations would overlap the tracks or the roadway that parallels the track in this location. This includes a parking lot. I can't move the roadway as it's already in place and complete. So do I move or redesign my passenger terminal track to accommodate the width of the stations, or do I hunt for a station that will fit in the space already allotted? Length is not an issue here as I have planned for a platform that will fit a 10 car passenger train. I have myself to blame for this as I should have taken into account the width of these stations and designed my yard accordingly, but I didn't. So I'm either going to have to install a minor S bend at one end, and thereby lose one track in my yard reducing it from 6 sorting tracks to 5 not including the rip track and main bi-pass. I have created extra work and delay which is why one should always get the dimensions of the structure you want to use and plan your track around it. Not the other way around. Live and learn.
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Post by zscalehobo on Jun 22, 2017 13:26:40 GMT -5
The problem I'm having is the stations that I have looked at, are all too wide to fit the space I have allotted. If I were to leave my passenger track as it is now, and use any one of a dozen or so train stations, the width of these stations would overlap the tracks or the roadway that parallels the track in this location. ... or do I hunt for a station that will fit in the space already allotted? I have a suggestion that may work ... Many kits have repeating structure, I wonder if you can chop it down in the direction you need? Kitbash an existing kit to meet your needs.
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Post by markm on Jun 22, 2017 14:37:01 GMT -5
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Post by neverland on Jun 23, 2017 6:01:10 GMT -5
I think kit bashing is the way to go. I bought an awesome station off of eBay & was amazed at the space it took up, length & width. Or find an ancillary building you can add a platform & bench to & create a station look. Many little whistle stops were quite small structures prior to WWII.
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Post by boxcarwilly on Jun 23, 2017 10:39:33 GMT -5
I've never been good at kit bashing. Always end up with a huge mess.
Frank.
Thanks for that suggestion and I have considered that as an option, but it would appear that the actual building as well as the base they sit on, is too wide. If I were to chop some of it off, I would have to loose part of the building furthest away from the platform. I don't think that would work.
Mark,
The workers living quarters would not conform to the theme I'm trying to keep to, however, the Mission Style station which I grew up with as well, would be perfect so long as it didn't have a base incorporated into it. This style is exactly what I need. As I recall, I think I've seen something similar to this style put out by one of the kit manufacturers but I can't remember who is was. I'm going to have to go hunting to see if I can find it.
Thanks for the suggestions.
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Post by BAZman on Jun 23, 2017 11:01:51 GMT -5
Also, if you only see one side of the station, especially if farther back, you may be able to cut it in 'half' (as much backside removal as needed. We do this with structures all the time, for background buildings.
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Post by markm on Jun 23, 2017 11:46:58 GMT -5
Willy, Look for the Randy Brown kits. They're cast materials and easy to trim down. Maybe consider his kits 105, 150,152 or 153: trainsbyrandybrown.com/Mark
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Post by zscalehobo on Jun 23, 2017 11:51:03 GMT -5
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Post by boxcarwilly on Jun 26, 2017 10:52:46 GMT -5
Good News!!!!
I have found the station that I have been looking for and from the measurements, it will fit where I need it to go. True, I've had to move my passenger track over about 2 inches by putting in a lazy S bend at one end of the approach track, but hey, if it works, what the hell. Now all I have to do is paint, assemble and glue in place, and the best thing about it is, it can be lit. BONUS!!!!! MTL puts it out. I'm excited. The other good thing too is I didn't lose a sorting track in my yard which I feared. DOUBLE BUNUS!!!!
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Post by markm on Jun 27, 2017 13:48:14 GMT -5
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Post by boxcarwilly on Jun 28, 2017 11:18:36 GMT -5
Hey Mark. Yes this is the one. I wasn't really looking for a station with a second floor, but I'll take it because it kinda fits in with my overall theme and I like the length to. All I have to do now is decide what colour to paint it. I am planning on lighting it, but I think I'll stay with the way it goes together. I'm not all that concerned about separating the first and second floors. This should be just the cat's meow or should I say the train' whistle.
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