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Post by husafreak on Jun 2, 2019 23:39:17 GMT -5
I got a couple of AZL UP GP-7 to haul freight and I'd like to buy a New Haven GE P42 Genesis to haul passengers. I don't know if these loco's from different era's ever shared tracks but I do like the NH Genesis engine, being from back east and all... What cars from the AZL line would the Genesis have pulled?
If I stay with older trains (maybe) from the Geep era I really like the Pullman cars offered by AZL. But which engine would have pulled those? Thanks!
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Post by markm on Jun 3, 2019 8:38:13 GMT -5
Regarding Pullman cars, there are a lot of possibilities. The "Pullman" cars (streamliner or heavyweight) would typically run with F3, F7 or E8/9 units. But they could also be pulled by a Challenger or Mikado steam engine, various pre-1971 Geeps or even the recently announced RSD.
As I understand the NH P42, it is a modern "heritage" paint scheme and goes with the Metro North cars.
Mark
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Post by cwrr on Jun 3, 2019 10:10:27 GMT -5
I'm not a New Haven expert, but about 2-3 decades difference between the Geeps and the P42, if trying to be like the prototype? But, it's your railroad and you can run it anyway you want!  |
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Post by ztrack on Jun 3, 2019 13:25:03 GMT -5
Check out this thread: azlforum.com/thread/1435/azl-2019-new-items-2I included photos of New Haven P42s with appropriate rolling stock. This include commuter cars and Amtrak stock. For the Pullman and light-weight passenger cars, go with F3s and E8s primarily. Select GP7s also were used to pull passenger cars. The Mikados could be used in a pinch, but these are more associated with freight service. |
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Post by husafreak on Jun 3, 2019 23:24:51 GMT -5
Thanks!
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Post by husafreak on Jun 4, 2019 21:44:47 GMT -5
Thanks again. Yes the Metro North commuter cars are perfect for the NH Genesis, a good match there and trains I sort of recognize from my travels, but modern trains.
I will do more research for a combination of loco and Older cars which could run as a passenger train alongside my UP GP7 pair pulling freight. Something from the 60’s that operated on the same tracks. Any suggestions are welcome. I’m learning about trains from books but there’s a lot to learn. I have seen that the Geeps pulled passenger cars. But this would be a nice reason to get an F3 or E8/9 they are very cool locos. One question about those concerns the AB engine pairs. In the AZL pairs do the B units have motors?
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Post by husafreak on Jun 4, 2019 21:46:06 GMT -5
And also what is the difference between lightweight and heavyweight passenger cars? They look the same to my uneducated eyes.
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Post by markm on Jun 4, 2019 22:17:16 GMT -5
Ah, the difference between lightweight and heavyweight. The most notable difference is that the HW cars generally have 6 wheeled trucks and LW 4 wheel trucks. HW cars were built before air conditioning so they generally have roof vents and minimal undercarriage hardware. LW roofs are streamlined. HW cars have a lot of rivets. As far as the UP, you could study it for years...literally. I'd suggest looking at utahrails.net/up/uprr-index.phpGenerally speaking, UP really liked the E & F units for their passenger trains. I seem to recall Geeps on some of the routes to the Pacific Northwest, and I am absolutely certain a GP7 pulled the City of Denver Christmas week of 1962. All the current production from AZL and MTL have powered B units. At one time MTL produced both F7A & B units as dummies. As I recall the early (brass) AZL B units were also dummies. Mark |
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Post by husafreak on Jun 6, 2019 17:26:53 GMT -5
Very useful link to charts, the answer is in there somewhere! I like the F3 AB sets. It looks like the Lightweight UP passenger cars are very popular.
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