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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 0:04:43 GMT -5
Can I use these signals on my layout (NH/NYC, 1964) ? Or are searchlights better ? Or maybe this version ? All the way, they will be dummy. Thanks for any answer ...
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Post by markm on Nov 7, 2018 8:11:56 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 10:43:56 GMT -5
I found a set of 6 searchlight signals in N scale here . The modeller agrees to convert them to z-scale ( size x 8/11), I will put a piece of opaque red or green plastic into the hole ... For my signal gantries (Outland models) I will use the set mentioned above. Concerning the relay boxes I found the version by "Showcase Miniatures" ; I think that on the picture the boxes are shown "upside down", is the thin "wire" the stand, or should it be inserted in the base plate, or am I wrong ? I didn't find any "prototypical" pictures ... And is there a special color, or should I leave them "silver" ?
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Post by markm on Nov 8, 2018 11:21:32 GMT -5
Looks like a good choice. I prefer brass due to the fineness of detail, but you're not going to find them premade. If you are looking are these: they are correct. Its a mast used for lines to bring power and signals down from a telephone pole to the box. Of course that means you'll want some telephone poles. If your railroad is using underground wiring, you'll want the Showcase Miniatures utility boxes: same thing without the mast. Mark
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 11:37:30 GMT -5
Is underground wiring OK for 1964 ?
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Post by markm on Nov 8, 2018 12:10:02 GMT -5
Most definitely. Probably much earlier in Massachusetts where winter weather could take down exposed lines.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 16:58:46 GMT -5
"Tabear" says he can modify the scale of all items (in fact, it is easy with any 3D-editor and the "source" file, even I can do it with my "old" Sketchup 6), he did it already for the searchlight signals ; I will use them on the track "outside" of stations, as block signals (dummy) ; I saw he has typical "triangle" signals of the NYC (even on cantilever bridges ! ) in N, I asked him to apply the same reduction factor (x8/11), so I would have the perfect (dummy) signalling on my layout ... Long live 3D-printing and all designers !
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Post by markm on Nov 8, 2018 22:38:20 GMT -5
It looks like you'll have some great detail for your layout. One other item you might want to consider are simulated switch machines. NZT made them a while back. Although the specific items for Rokuhan track are sold out (and probably never to be made again), the ones without roadbed are still available on Monster Z and maybe there's one already on Shapeways in N scale. Mark
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 1:09:34 GMT -5
Recent news : the cantilever bridges are not possible, aligning the targets with the centers of the tracks would make a width/height ratio of 1.5, this would look silly and the targets become oval ; maybe that there is a possibility of cutting away the targets from the standard signals and glueing them on Outland bridges.
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Post by markm on Nov 9, 2018 19:10:39 GMT -5
I have a reference that notes that the background of the NYC signals were smaller than other railroads. You might want to look for an image to confirm, but this might help you out of your problem.
Mark
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2018 1:44:13 GMT -5
Meanwhile the modeller showed the modified cantilever bridge, it looks fine ... The only (missing) thing, that I suggested, was that he should make a "right" and "left" version, so I can fix them on the same side of the tracks ...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2018 11:25:23 GMT -5
Look here ... I ordered 2 "pairs" (4 bridges for my 2 stations). The only issue could be with the vertical clearance (due to the ballast of Rokuhan tracks). But an additional "concrete" pedestal can be quickly built with some layers of plasticard ... or even in 3D-printing, standard polyamide would have the adequate structure for concrete !
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Post by markm on Nov 10, 2018 13:02:04 GMT -5
Looks like an excellent solution. For such a structure I would expect a substantial concrete base. For the western railroads I'm modeling, it's not unusual to find about a 2x3 meter concrete slab whose surface is at rail height. For single signals and relay box, the concrete is generally not much larger than the base and only slightly above grade.
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