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Post by ciccino on Oct 7, 2018 6:33:32 GMT -5
Hello!
Does anybody know which kind of passenger cars were pulled by C&O big steam engines before the rise of diesel? For instance in George Washington and Pere Marquette trains. While there is online a lot of info on diesel powered trains, I have great difficulty to pick the right stuff (heavyweight, lightweight, streamlined, Pullmann, Budd etc.) for steam locomotives. There are several pictures, for instance of the Hudson L-1 class, but alas, I am not so knowledgeable to tell one type of car from the other.
Thank you!
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Post by markm on Oct 7, 2018 9:03:21 GMT -5
I don't know how much this will help, but try: www.streamlinerschedules.com/concourse/track4/peremarq194706.htmlWhile the site is meant to report timetables, many pages list car types and sometimes even specific cars. From this page it would seem that the C&O Pere Marguette never ran steam, except possibly in an emergency. Mark |
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Post by ciccino on Oct 7, 2018 10:57:58 GMT -5
I don't know how much this will help, but try: www.streamlinerschedules.com/concourse/track4/peremarq194706.htmlWhile the site is meant to report timetables, many pages list car types and sometimes even specific cars. From this page it would seem that the C&O Pere Marguette never ran steam, except possibly in an emergency. Mark A most interesting site, thank you Mark. I will study it as much as possible, to see if something is recorded of the C&O steam swan’s song :-) |
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Post by markm on Oct 7, 2018 12:22:44 GMT -5
It can be really hard to pin down the transition. Diesel really got going about 1938 with the New York World's Fair. But it really depends on the railroad. Out west, where oil was king, the transition was early 1940s to early 1950s, but there are instances of steam on SP as late as 1959. East coast road, particularly in coal country generally occurred later, running steam into the supersonic era:  The Great Western Railroad [of Colorado] ran steam until 1982, and fired up the locomotives for reserve as late as 1987, making it the last U.S. steam-powered industrial railroad. So you really need to research the transition mindset of the railroad you want to model. mark |
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Post by ciccino on Oct 7, 2018 15:11:44 GMT -5
Indeed! I am particularly fascinated by eastern railroads like Norfolk & Western, New York Central and Chesapeake & Ohio, all of which proudly had used fine streamlined steam locomotives since the 30s. So fond were they of steam power, that even designed new locomotives when everyone else had already shifted to diesel. Just think of the amazing, ill-fated C&O M-1 steam turbine :-)
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Post by Commodore on Oct 7, 2018 15:19:57 GMT -5
To date the picture, the couple is sitting in a 1955 Buick Super.
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Post by ciccino on Oct 7, 2018 15:38:10 GMT -5
A drive-in beside a railroad with heavy steam engines :-0 that’s amazing. By the way, that on screen should be an F-86 Sabre. Maybe it is a Korean war movie or documentary
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Post by markm on Oct 7, 2018 19:48:15 GMT -5
The O Winston Link image was taken in Aug 1956 and it is indeed a Sabre from a Korean war movie.
For many railroads in coal country, the decision to stick with steam was very economic. If coal isn't used, the railroads don't carry as much and they earn less in transport fees. In the case of the Great Western I mentioned above, the company also owned coal mines so the cost was labor only for them.,
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