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Post by markm on Jun 1, 2018 18:03:26 GMT -5
I was wondering what AZL does with the rolling stock that becomes un-shippable product: ladders or brake wheels broken off, spoiled paint and such? In the prototype world one runs across boxcar sheds, flat car bridges, heavyweight passenger diners and cabooses. For those of us who like to model the unusual, those misfit cars could find a home. I realize it's not a big market, but then again hopefully you don't have a large cache of otherwise unsalable items.
Mark
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Post by neverland on Jun 1, 2018 19:26:57 GMT -5
Mark, I'm sitting here laughing because that's actually a great idea! In real life there's always cars in various stages of disrepair. Why should we take perfectly good cars & total them just to have some derelicts? Lol
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Post by cwrr on Jun 1, 2018 21:54:36 GMT -5
I'd buy some of they're throw aways! Maybe they can have a "Scratch & Dent" sale!!  |
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Post by arsenix2001 on Jun 2, 2018 9:28:20 GMT -5
Might be sold with a mark up now due to “being an authentic prototype replica disrepair series” 😂
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Post by gerd on Jun 2, 2018 17:31:32 GMT -5
I guess the reason for not having a “b-quality ” sale by AZL is the fact that they are not a manufacturer. Goods shipped from the suppliers are in good quality, otherwise you through them back at them. Only shipping damages could qualify, but they might be claimed with an insurance.
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Post by neverland on Jun 11, 2018 14:24:52 GMT -5
I guess the reason for not having a “b-quality ” sale by AZL is the fact that they are not a manufacturer. Goods shipped from the suppliers are in good quality, otherwise you through them back at them. Only shipping damages could qualify, but they might be claimed with an insurance. Oh Gerd, don't kill a dream here. Lol! Mark was on to something good here. 😄 |
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Post by Commodore on Aug 21, 2018 21:54:46 GMT -5
What about now?
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Post by neverland on Aug 22, 2018 11:50:51 GMT -5
Absolutely! Lol!! No business to return the defects to. Sell them as-is and those who like to tinker can have fun!
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Post by ciccino on Aug 27, 2018 15:21:46 GMT -5
I still think it would be a horrible idea. To put into circulation faulty items would greatly harm the perception of the AZL brand (which is now state of the art). Imo it was already very difficult to manage the GP-38 crisis as it was. What would happen, should tens of defective locos of a given model hit the market? In the aftermarket nobody would risk buying one such loco, knowing it could be one of the “broken” ones...
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Post by ztrack on Aug 27, 2018 16:30:50 GMT -5
Now on the other hand, what if AZL would go through an extensive rebuild program to take a few misfits that have been sold out for many, many years and offer them with all new and upgraded components? Hmmm...
Coming 9/1/18...
Rob
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Post by dazed on Aug 27, 2018 18:49:46 GMT -5
I still think it would be a horrible idea. To put into circulation faulty items would greatly harm the perception of the AZL brand (which is now state of the art). Imo it was already very difficult to manage the GP-38 crisis as it was. What would happen, should tens of defective locos of a given model hit the market? In the aftermarket nobody would risk buying one such loco, knowing it could be one of the “broken” ones... Um, that is pretty much EXACTLY what has happened with the GP38s. If we’re buying defective products anyway, might as well get them at a “scratch & dent” price. |
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Post by markm on Aug 27, 2018 20:35:49 GMT -5
I still think it would be a horrible idea. To put into circulation faulty items would greatly harm the perception of the AZL brand (which is now state of the art). Imo it was already very difficult to manage the GP-38 crisis as it was. What would happen, should tens of defective locos of a given model hit the market? In the aftermarket nobody would risk buying one such loco, knowing it could be one of the “broken” ones... Um, that is pretty much EXACTLY what has happened with the GP38s. If we’re buying defective products anyway, might as well get them at a “scratch & dent” price. I have to wonder how one can criticize a release that hasn't yet to be announced? There are so many possibilities: These could be physical upgrades to new couplers/trucks like the Gundersons. They could bring out lettered cars for new roads from current unlettered inventory. They could be misprinted or blemish items that have been dipped and repainted. Or they are items that need minor replacement of applied parts. All of these are things that would be typical in-house repairs for a manufacturing operation. I for one am willing to wait until Friday. |
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Post by dazed on Aug 27, 2018 20:59:55 GMT -5
My comment has absolutely nothing to do with Rob's post. Notice that I quoted a previous comment, related to how releasing faulty items would tarnish the brand. So, I'm not criticizing whatever is happening on Friday.
Other mfgs in other scales manage to release "scratch & dent" items without harming their image. It's a matter of clearing denoting such items and framing them as products for scratchbuilders and tinkerers.
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Post by ciccino on Aug 28, 2018 4:02:02 GMT -5
Now on the other hand, what if AZL would go through an extensive rebuild program to take a few misfits that have been sold out for many, many years and offer them with all new and upgraded components? Hmmm... Coming 9/1/18... Rob Now, that would really be a great idea! A reconditioned model would have no difference with an ordinary model, while having the added bonus of being otherwise impossible to get brand new (in case of sold out items). I guess the price would be that of the regular model, if not higher because of the various upgrades :-P |
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