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Post by tjdreams on Jan 15, 2018 18:34:06 GMT -5
And for the finished box. I decided to stick with the Stain for 2 reasons. #1 I ran out of time #2 I think it turned out just fine. and #3 i took the stone paint with me incase my Grandson wanted to change it. David
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Post by tjdreams on Jan 15, 2018 19:33:00 GMT -5
Well My Grandson Declared his new Z scale Train set To be "The Best Christmas Present Ever in the Whole World" So I guess i got it right. From this point on my Grandson age 10 and Granddaughter age 8 did 100% of the work. and made all the decisions on how it was going to be. My only hands on was to fix a couple misaligned track couplers and to do the wiring. I tried to help a couple times but was quickly told "its my train PopPop i can do it" So i sat back gave some instructions and took pictures while they put it together. Anyway it took no time at all for my grandson to pull out the boxes of marklin sectional Track and start laying it around on the bottom. I never said a word. He seemed to know what he was doing and what he wanted. He laid it out a couple different ways first using a couple turnouts then a over and under pattern then to my surprise he removed the turnouts, made 2 simple loop, and asked could he build it like that. I told him it was his layout and he could build it anyway he wanted. With his sisters help holding the track still he traced it then got out the glue and glued it down. I told him i had road bed to go under it but he said he didn't want the track to stick way up While the track was drying he opened the roll of Noch Street tape and stuck it down where he wanted it.
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Post by tjdreams on Jan 15, 2018 20:11:44 GMT -5
After letting everything Dry over night my granddaughter started painting on the glue while my grandson put down the grass, They had a plan of where they wanted grass and where they didn't want it. And they did a pretty good job of keeping the glue off the track. While they put down the grass i wired it up. I had switches and a control box so he could run one or both trains or have insulated passing sidings and such but he wanted it so both trains moved at once with the inside loop going the opposite way of the outside loop. So I wired it up as he Instructed.
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Post by tjdreams on Jan 15, 2018 20:50:35 GMT -5
After getting back from his first Train Show The World's Greatest Hobby on Tour in Charlotte NC (which by the way was a very nice show with a coupe huge layouts.) He added some Trees/Bushes to the grass areas then cut and glued some back ground scenery into the lid.
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Post by Commodore on Jan 15, 2018 20:58:28 GMT -5
Thanks David.
That's the way to work with kids. Given the tools, they will do just fine. ...Adults should stay in the background. Great job.
I left Charlotte too soon, it seems. How was the show with Z?
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Post by tjdreams on Jan 15, 2018 21:12:49 GMT -5
And Finally we went on to folding and gluing one of the Card stock kits he got for Christmas together. They were a little on the flimsy side but l was prepared for this and had a pack of match sticks and some miniature close pins to clamp them in place while the glue dried All in All these little "card Stock kits" from ebay don't look to bad and were easy enough that a 10 year old was able to assemble them. Granted he didn't get all the seams/folds just right and some of the awnings are a little crooked But Hay he built them all himself.
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Post by tjdreams on Jan 15, 2018 21:32:51 GMT -5
And lastly a few pic's of how it looks now
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Post by tjdreams on Jan 15, 2018 22:16:41 GMT -5
Thanks David. That's the way to work with kids. Given the tools, they will do just fine. ...Adults should stay in the background. Great job. I left Charlotte too soon, it seems. How was the show with Z? Only one Dealer had Z scale. He had a nice selection of MTL weathered cars. But his prices. My cash stayed in my pockets. In General it was about what you would expect from your average Trainshow.com series of train show. A nice show with a few nice layouts a bunch of dealers with overpriced stock. There were a few good deals here and there But you better know what your looking for and what it sells for elsewhere or you will wind up overpaying
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Post by Admin on Jan 15, 2018 22:43:40 GMT -5
It all looks terrific! Good call on the stain too, what a great gift! John Raildig
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Post by cwrr on Jan 15, 2018 23:35:13 GMT -5
What a great job, congrats all! I remember my first N-scale set, my Dad brang it home for me on my birthday, and it sparked my n-scale empire back in the day!! Keep us updated on future progress!!
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Post by jhrailroading on Jan 15, 2018 23:41:23 GMT -5
It turned out very well. Most of all it sounds like your grandson had a great time. Now he has a real sense of ownership and pride in the layout because he got to help build it. Awesome gift!
-Jason
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Post by Commodore on Jan 16, 2018 22:52:46 GMT -5
Thanks again, David.
Great Idea!
My next project will be in a box, too...
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Post by tjdreams on Sept 8, 2019 20:13:33 GMT -5
Well its comming up on 2 years since I gave my grandson his first train set. Last xmas he got several cardbord bldg kits a couple locomotives and some cars to add to his collection. But i'm conserned he may be loosing intrest in it. So for this xmas I had gathered some more track and a few turnouts to add a 2nd loop of track hoping that it might get him more intrested When i saw this on facebook for free. Thinking maybe this would be a good alternative to helping hin add another loop and sidings to his current layout, I jumped on it after all the price was right. But now that i have it here i'm woundering if i should give him this? or help him upgrade his current layout in a box? or maybe Both? On one hand he would get to lay the track however he wants and continue building on to what he has allready built himself. On the other this free layout is bigger and would alow him to do more. Anyway a little info about the free train table i just got. It's 5'-7" long x 2'-1" wide and their's a backdrop board thats about 7" or 8" tall When picking it up i learned that the gentalman who built it did so after having a stroke which left him with very little use of his right hand/arm. Which explained a lot about the bench work, not bad for someone with one arm but still not good. And the wireing looked like it was ok till someone hacked it up trying to remove the control panel. The benchwork isn't a big deal I tour it all off leaving just the 3 pieces of plywood that were cobbled together to make the table. I will pick up some 1 x 4's tommorrow and rebuild a frame and supports, thats the easy part for me. The wiring, Well Tracing wires for track power to each loop, the turntable, a dozen isulated sideings, 15 turnouts, a handfull of actuation and remote uncupling tracks, and a few unknown wires not connercted to anything, looked to be a hurculeain task considering every wire was the exat same color and had obviously come off the same spool of marklin blue wire. So I decider to just remove it all and start over. I also tore out the 2 dozen or so christmas tree lights that had been used to light the houses and buildings that didnt come with the layout. I'm not sure about the turnouts and track work. It appears they are both spiked and glued down. I need to build a new base to support the table top and make room in the basement first so i can set it up to mess with it. This is how it looks now Oh does anyone happen to have a extra marklin 8998 first generation turntable controler?
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Post by altunha on Sept 29, 2019 10:15:06 GMT -5
Looks great! What a nice job, and it looks like a fun layout. That’s one of the things I like about Z Scale. You don’t need a lot of wood - I I used scraps on mine, too. A little sanding and stain, and things look really nice.
Jim
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Post by tjdreams on Dec 31, 2019 10:08:38 GMT -5
A Update on my progress or should i say lack there of.
The layout i picked up back in September turned out to be in worse condition than i first took notice to. I could not get anything to even make a single loop. The track was held in place with a combination of Double sided tape, White Glue, CA glue, hot Glue, rail spikes, Screws, and in spots not attached at all Their were no rail joiners in several locations which left the rails miss aligned and at different elevations. Plus the rails were bent out of gauge in a few other spots. After a few hours of trying to rebuild/repair it i came to the realization that it was a lost cause and the best option would be to salvage what track and turnouts i could and start over from scratch.
Oh Well You win some You lose some. At least I was able to salvage most of the track and turnouts
David
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